Winny and Deca cycle?

Please help me....I have done my research but seem to get very mixed answers. I just got done with a deca/test cyp cycle and gained over 20 lbs....it was great...however, I gained a little too much water retention. I got myself some winny and deca as i was originally told that would be a good cycle to acheive the results of 10-20 lbs of lean quality muscle with less water retention. since then i have been told by some that deca and winny isnt a good stack because i will get deca dick and i need test. is this true? will i get deca dick if i do a stack of winny and deca? has anyone done this stack before (winny/deca), and if so, what kind of results did they get? I also have hcg and clomid for pct. will hcg help out with any reduced sex drive issues if i use it mid cycle?
anyone who has actually done this stack please let me know what results you got.
thanks

you still got water retention with deca


deca and winny = floppy cock

no test = impotent depresses SOB who cant get chicks :(

1) deca will give you deca-dick for shure. if you dont want this, U HAVE TO PUT SOME TEST NEXT TO DECA! sustanon, omnadren or test enanthat are the best to run with deca.
2) if you dont put some test in it, PCT will not help you how you want to. this is meaning that hcg will rise your natural test production in the firs 2-3 weeks, but after it will be verry low a few month.
3) however, if u run a good cycle, hcg+clomid is the best PCT for you.
4) dont forget, dose and timing are verry important for cycle AND pct.

Got it, bro? (hope that help u and scuse my english)

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Originally Posted by StillStrong

1) deca will give you deca-dick for shure. if you dont want this, U HAVE TO PUT SOME TEST NEXT TO DECA! sustanon, omnadren or test enanthat are the best to run with deca.
2) if you dont put some test in it, PCT will not help you how you want to. this is meaning that hcg will rise your natural test production in the firs 2-3 weeks, but after it will be verry low a few month.
3) however, if u run a good cycle, hcg+clomid is the best PCT for you.
4) dont forget, dose and timing are verry important for cycle AND pct.

Got it, bro? (hope that help u and scuse my english)

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Well would you look at that.. some good advice from a newbie :D!!

i would like to add NOLVA is great for pct as well and during cycle.

If you are worried about water retention get yourself an AI like letro or arimidex or even aromasin

[QUOTE=taiboxa]Well would you look at that.. some good advice from a newbie :D!!
yes, I am new,on this forum, but not so new in body-building and steroids...
I only try to help the guy, and hope u guys will help me with my problems.
I hope I didnt made anyone mad.... OR DID I?? :scratch:

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Originally Posted by StillStrong

yes, I am new,on this forum, but not so new in body-building and steroids...
I only try to help the guy, and hope u guys will help me with my problems.
I hope I didnt made anyone mad.... OR DID I?? :scratch:

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LoL no u impressed me .. most people that are new either give some off the wall advice or give redundent questions.. you did good! :lol:

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Originally Posted by taiboxa

LoL no u impressed me .. most people that are new either give some off the wall advice or give redundent questions.. you did good! :lol:

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thanks, bro

definately add some test to this stack. if you dont you WILL get deca di_k. and since you will be running a steroid which aromatizes easily (test) you need to run an anti e too, preferably letrozole cause its STRONG and it blocks progesterone related gyno (from the deca) too

DECA/Winny/Proviron = better than Deca/winny

you need some test in this cycle, bro

IMO and from what I read you should being taking in at least 100 mg more of Test then Deca

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Originally Posted by taiboxa

no test = impotent depresses SOB who cant get chicks :(

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Fact. Need test in your cycle. You could use something like a eca stack after pct to cut down on the added water weight.