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    Tren Cycle Question

    I'm about to hop on a my second cycle which I planned on running

    Fina 50mg/day for 8 weeks
    with 2 bottles of EQ

    I keep reading on here that everybody swears up and down that i need test in it.

    first how do ya'll like the EQ in there, i heard it keeps a lot of the results and second should I run a test in there or will I be OK, if i do probally prob

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    There is no point in stacking EQ with TREN since they both are class 1, steroids , that binds strongly to the AR.

    You can make greate gains on a tren-only cycle, but it might cause libido problems. Stacking it with test or proviron would solve that.

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    Get some test in there bro!!! Wot is your cycle history??

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    I would suggest 6 weeks of tren , and also to throw some test in there. Any anti-e / pct plans?

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    8 weeks of eq is practically worthless imo,it should be run for no less than 12 weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    8 weeks of eq is practically worthless imo,it should be run for no less than 12 weeks!
    Agreed. 12+ weeks is best.

    Also, you need some Testosterone in their somewhere. Prop would be good with EQ. But I hope you like injections.

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    can you explain a little more why tren can't be stacked with eq? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabriel595
    can you explain a little more why tren can't be stacked with eq? thanks
    Its not a case of what Tren and EQ can be combined with. Its that you need a form of testosterone in your cycle. Tren is a very suppressive androgen, with some nasty side effects. You will have little/no sex drive if test isnt included in this cycle. Even a small dose for labido issues. Test should be the building blocks of all cycles, the base. Tren A is also for the experienced AS user. With 4-5 cycles under their belt.

    You should, however, know this.

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    swifto first of all EQ does aromatisize so i dont see the reason for the test? especially at low dosages couse EQ DOES aromatisize....

    but the thing thats interesting will EQ and tren compete for the receptors? or what? why couldnt they be runned togehter?????

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    Its not a case of what Tren and EQ can be combined with. Its that you need a form of testosterone in your cycle. Tren is a very suppressive androgen, with some nasty side effects. You will have little/no sex drive if test isnt included in this cycle. Even a small dose for labido issues. Test should be the building blocks of all cycles, the base. Tren A is also for the experienced AS user. With 4-5 cycles under their belt.

    You should, however, know this.
    yes i know that, i was just wondering that tren & eq thing because i was planning that cycle in a future

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    Quote Originally Posted by karln
    swifto first of all EQ does aromatisize so i dont see the reason for the test? especially at low dosages couse EQ DOES aromatisize....

    but the thing thats interesting will EQ and tren compete for the receptors? or what? why couldnt they be runned togehter?????
    Sorry....Maybe you should re-read my post. Where did I say, EQ doesnt aromotase?

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    thats why u use testosterone as a base in every cycle swifto couse it aromatisize there is not other reason.....

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    i would never run tren without test in there with it. One it could mess with your libido and 2 the gains are so much better.

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    this would be my second cycle my first was deca test winny...

    Do ya'll recommend Prop or E test...

    Also i'm having second thoughts about this cycle because i had hairloss using winny...is it definite that i will also with tren or is it just based on how that chemical reacts to me. I am naturally thinning also by the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Sorry....Maybe you should re-read my post. Where did I say, EQ doesnt aromotase?
    Dont put me down as one of the parrots reciting what other people say, but I read in a drug profile on one web site or another that EQ "IS" in fact aromatasable, it can generate estrogen and DHT as well as convert to testosterone itself but the conversion rate is supposedly much less then real testosterone does. Before you bank on this data, you might want to research it out some for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karln
    thats why u use testosterone as a base in every cycle swifto couse it aromatisize there is not other reason.....

    no i use it as a base b/c it leads to great gains and no sexual sides for me. Test is the hormone that made you man and all other steroids work very synergistically with test. For all those that complain about sides, most can be controlled quite easily as long as you dont go with heavy doses. I have yet to experience any side effects from test. Tren on the other hand gives me some nasty night sweats, but I love the results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntpadude
    Dont put me down as one of the parrots reciting what other people say, but I read in a drug profile on one web site or another that EQ "IS" in fact aromatasable, it can generate estrogen and DHT as well as convert to testosterone itself but the conversion rate is supposedly much less then real testosterone does. Before you bank on this data, you might want to research it out some for yourself.
    In my research EQ does infact aromotase. Very slowly. About half the rate of testosterone .

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    Quote Originally Posted by karln
    thats why u use testosterone as a base in every cycle swifto couse it aromatisize there is not other reason.....
    huh ?????

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    sorry your thread has been hijacked NJ, I would recommend prop since you are already gonna be doing eod injects with the tren .

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    how much prop should you run with tren

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    75mgs ed prop total of 10wks
    50mgs ed tren ace total of 8wks
    start there, if u candle the sides, increase:
    100mg ed prop
    75mg ed tren ace

    also inlcude:
    vit. B6 200mg ed
    milk thistle
    nolva 20mg ed
    Quote Originally Posted by New Juice
    how much prop should you run with tren
    Last edited by Jray1der; 01-27-2006 at 05:19 PM.

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    i don't know much about prop is that going to be one or two bottles, and how should i run my 2 bottles of eq in there

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    first we need to know how many mg's your eq is claiming to posses per ml. next thing, i am gonna be str8 with you, you're not gonna have enough eq with just 2 bottles, even if the bottles were 300mg per ml, that would allow you up to only 10 weeks worth. you need at least 3 bottles.
    Quote Originally Posted by New Juice
    i don't know much about prop is that going to be one or two bottles, and how should i run my 2 bottles of eq in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Juice
    i don't know much about prop is that going to be one or two bottles, and how should i run my 2 bottles of eq in there
    typically, prop comes in 10ml/100mg bottles. Each bottle = 10 days. 10 weeks = 70 days, therefore, you will need 7 bottles. It hurts. I have 8 bottles left out of 10 and I am stopping immediately.
    Last edited by THEMOSTHATED; 01-27-2006 at 07:53 PM.

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    I decided to run tren a couple of weeks longer on my last cycle. I didn't get any more test, and while I knew this was a major mistake, I took the risk.

    I will NEVER do that again...NEVER!

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    why cant you run a tren only cycle and buy some cialis?

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    I dope that was sarcasm. If not...

    Take advice from some of the experience bro's here.

    The reason you cannot, cialis will not produce test...

    ...Actually, you should give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by custom fit
    I dope that was sarcasm.

    Of course.......?

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