my 1st cycle, what do you think?

[assguy22]

Hi!, I'm 22 years old have been training for 2 years & 2 months, 5 days/week. I'm 1,84cm & 85kg 14% body fat. What do you think about this cycle? I wanna use deca /sus + dbol combination but I don' know if it's too much dosage for me.

week----DECA(w)--SUS(w)--DBOL--NOLVADEX -PROVIRON -CLOMID-HCG (ui/w)
1--------200------250------25
2--------300------250------30-------10------ 25
3--------400------500------30-------20------ 25
4--------400------500------30-------20------ 50
5--------400------500------30-------20------ 50
6--------400------500------30-------20------ 50
7--------400------500------30-------20------ 50
8--------300------250------30-------20------ 50
9--------200------250------25-------20------ 50
10-----------------------------------10------ 25-----100-----7500
11-------------------------------------------25------50------5000
12---------------------------------------------------50------2500


Should I reduce the cycle to 8 weeks?... maybe reduce mg's/week of deca & sus?

Thank you.

[toolman]

No need to pyramid dosages. Further, all you need for a first cycle is test.

I don't know what it is with all these first cycle guys, but there is no need to stack on your first cycle.

[axemurderer187]

dude, how much would a cycle like that cost???

I agree w/toolman, no need to stack on your first cycle.

[Magnum II]

500 mg/wk of Test is more than ample for a first cycle bro. You should grow like crazy on that. Stacking different compounds should be reserved for later cycles after your body (receptors) begin to become de-sensitized to AS.

If running Sust...best to split the dose and inject every other day in order to keep blood levels even. If using a long-acting, single ester Test like Enanthate , twice per week will do.

[SPIKE]

dude, how much would a cycle like that cost???

Relatively cheap, man good thing you never saw my cycle


Yes I agree with Toolman as well. I"m sure we all remember when we started. Wanted to do everything under the sun first time around telling myself I didnt want to get too big. 10 cycles later here I am spending G's. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh life is such an experience isnt it?????

[map200uk]

i wouldnt run all those compounds tbh, id do either sust/deca or sust/dbol
and no pyramidding,

[Booz]

imo a 1st cycle should consist of test only ran at 500mg weekly,10-12 weeks!make sure you have your pct lined up before you start your course!

[assguy22]

I only got deca /sus/dbol .... haven't test

Any solution? Is it really dangerous run this cycle?

[magic32]

This cycle is far too complex and thus heavy for a first run.

I only got deca /sus/dbol .... haven't test
Any solution? Is it really dangerous run this cycle?

Suggestion...get some Test E and run as recommended above. Save the rest for subsequent cycles. It won't go bad, your body will thank you for letting it adjust slowly and your already spent money will still be put to good use.

M.

[longhorn814]

I only got deca /sus/dbol .... haven't test

Any solution? Is it really dangerous run this cycle?

umm sust is test..i would definitely research a LOT more. Since you dont have a single estered test, just run 500mg/wk sust for 10-12 weeks followed by proper PCT.

[Booz]

like longhorn has said sustanon is test,although it has short actin esters in and should really be ran eod,you can run it twice weekly!

[assguy22]

I think 500mg/week of testo enanthe could be too much... take a look at how it would be...

week----test.e.(mg/week)----dianabol .(mg/day)--NOLVADEX .(mg/day)
1-----------250-------------------30-------------------------10
2-----------250-------------------30-------------------------10
3-----------250-------------------30-------------------------10
4-----------250-------------------30-------------------------10
5-----------250----------------------------------------------10
6-----------250----------------------------------------------10
7-----------250----------------------------------------------10
8-----------250----------------------------------------------10
9-----------250----------------------------------------------10
10----------250----------------------------------------------10
11------------------------------------------------------------10
12------------------------------------------------------------10
13--------clomid-----------------clomid-----------------------10
14--------clomid-----------------clomid-----------------------10
15--------clomid-----------------clomid-----------------------10

clomid pct (mg)
==========
semana1 300 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100
semana2 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 050 | 050 | 050
semana3 050 | 050 | 050 | 050 | 050 | 050 | 050

Is it ok? should I use more nolvadex per day? maybe increase test. enanthate to 300mg/week?

thnk you.

[Grappler13]

Save the orals for later. Dbol has some harsh sides and test-e is plain ole dreamy. 1st cycle: one AAS

[Booz]

250mg is not enough imo!up it to 500mg or i would not bother mate.jmo.

[topvega]

Don't waste your time with 250mg a week... do it right test e or c 500mg a week, solid diet, good training, and proper rest... U will grow like a weed... split the dose, shoot every 3.5 days...

[assguy22]

and what about nolvadex & clomid pct? is it enough? should I increase to 20mg/day of nolvadex if I finally use 500mg/week of test?

[assguy22]

... any idea?

[Darren1968]

i would run the nolvadex at 20mg a day & only do Test E (500mg a week)on its own for 10 or 12 weeks to see how your body will react to it.
You Clomid seems ok

[Need2bBigger]

i would run the nolvadex at 20mg a day & only do Test E (500mg a week)on its own for 10 or 12 weeks to see how your body will react to it.
You Clomid seems ok

I second that. Except you may be ok running 10mgs of nolva. I run 10 mgs/day with test/deca .

[assguy22]

what about proviron ? Would it be recomended run 25-50mg/day of proviron with 20mg/day nolvadex ? Other boards say that is very recomended for beating possible gyno development.

[hosam4ever]

r u gyno prone

[assguy22]

dunno dude... that will be my 1st cycle.

[New Juice]

500mg/week of test e or nothing i think...it is a safe dose but will give you results...I think you need some research or else I don't think you would be putting dbol into your first cycle. stick with one sauce and see how you react to it, then add one more...