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    Second cycle ! advice Please..

    Need advice for a good second cycle !
    My first cycle was :
    week 1-4 25mg dbol
    week 1-10 300mg primobolan

    my stats are:

    25 years old
    87 kg
    arms 17 inches
    quads 26 inches
    calf 17 inches
    waist 33 inches
    Bodyfat 10-11 %

    Im going for mass without to much bloat !
    what whould be a good cycle for me ?
    I already have Dbol next to me and 20 testoviron 250mg, but not sure if this whould give to much bloat. should i go for testovis (prop) instead ?
    any advice whould be great !!!!

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    Run a single estered Test. Such as Enan or Cyp at 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. To combat bloat an AI could be used. Run some Proviron at 50mg/ED throughout and during PCT. You could also kcikstart with Tbol or Dbol . Something like:

    wk 1-4 Tbol 50mg/ED OR Dbol 35mg/ED
    wk 1-12 Test Enan OR Cyp (Injecting 250mg Mon/Thurs)
    wk 1-12 Proviron 50mg/ED

    14 days after last Test Enan shot or 16 days after last Cyp shot, PCT begins.

    This is all you need for a second cycle. Taking into acount you have never experienced testosterone . You could just run Test Only with no kickstart.

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    500mg test weekly 10-12 weeks as swift has stated abouv!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Run a single estered Test. Such as Enan or Cyp at 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. To combat bloat an AI could be used. Run some Proviron at 50mg/ED throughout and during PCT. You could also kcikstart with Tbol or Dbol . Something like:

    wk 1-4 Tbol 50mg/ED OR Dbol 35mg/ED
    wk 1-12 Test Enan OR Cyp (Injecting 250mg Mon/Thurs)
    wk 1-12 Proviron 50mg/ED

    14 days after last Test Enan shot or 16 days after last Cyp shot, PCT begins.

    This is all you need for a second cycle. Taking into acount you have never experienced testosterone. You could just run Test Only with no kickstart.
    Spot on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jnrmrplymouth
    Spot on!
    Wouldnt expect anything less...

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    Thanks for the quick replys !
    Dont know if i can get proviron from my source, if not, Whould nolva have the same effect ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutalis
    Thanks for the quick replys !
    Dont know if i can get proviron from my source, if not, Whould nolva have the same effect ?
    No.

    Nolva is a SERM, it fights for the same receptors estrogen does, thus, blocking its effects. Proviron is an AI, which prevent the aromotasation from testosterone to estrogen. Its better at reducing gyno and water retention than Nolva. Its also good for labido and hardening gains.

    For PCT it rasies serum levels of LH/FSH, alike Nolva.

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    thanks swifto !
    Hope i can get my hands on Proviron ..

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