A question about my reasearch on Test E

**andrelee** · 01-29-2006, 12:06 AM

In most of the threads I read that 500mg of test e per week is a good way to start off on your first cycle. However, as I was reading up on test e raed this
"Despite this we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. For the more advanced, Testosterone enanthate can either be taken alone or in combination with other compounds."
and it confused me a bit. Why dose it recomend not taking test first, and what weaker steroids is it talking about?

**Kale** · 01-29-2006, 12:14 AM

Its bullshit bro. Where did you read that. Test should be the basis of all cycles. Every search you do here on First Cycles will tell you that

**andrelee** · 01-29-2006, 12:18 AM

I read it in the steroid profiles, on the main paige.

**Kale** · 01-29-2006, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by andrelee

I read it in the steroid profiles, on the main paige.

Its still bullshit. They havnt been updated for years

**Myka** · 01-29-2006, 12:38 AM

There is also a novice cycle on there that recommends 200mg b6 per day for 15 wks...but recently it has been shown that this dose causes nerve damage...just to give an example of its wrongness...

**Kale** · 01-29-2006, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by NewKid

There is also a novice cycle on there that recommends 200mg b6 per day for 15 wks...but recently it has been shown that this dose causes nerve damage...just to give an example of its wrongness...

I cant understand why they havnt cleaned that shit up. I wouldnt do any of the cycles recommended there !!!

**goalseeker** · 01-29-2006, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by NewKid

There is also a novice cycle on there that recommends 200mg b6 per day for 15 wks...but recently it has been shown that this dose causes nerve damage...just to give an example of its wrongness...

Can you hook me up to that bro? Im running B6 250ed on this test/deca cycle and would like to read more about it..thx

**Myka** · 01-29-2006, 01:10 AM

Can Vitamin B-6 be dangerous?

I cant remember...is deca a progestorone steroid ...I know tren is...

**Kale** · 01-29-2006, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by NewKid

Can Vitamin B-6 be dangerous?

I cant remember...is deca a progestorone steroid...I know tren is...

Yes its is, however read this http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=125751

**Myka** · 01-29-2006, 01:16 AM

hmm yes I would still take the b6 just at 100mg per day...just in case...yes...

**Kale** · 01-29-2006, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by NewKid

hmm yes I would still take the b6 just at 100mg per day...just in case...yes...

I would, better to be safe than sorry

**goalseeker** · 01-29-2006, 01:28 AM

thx bro.. good read...

**freak_of_nature_86** · 01-29-2006, 01:33 AM

what is b6 used for?

**Kale** · 01-29-2006, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by freak_of_nature_86

what is b6 used for?

There is a theory that it helps protect agains progesterone caused gyno as opposed to Estrogen gyno. But if you read the thread I posted, in Pheedno's opinion, progesterone gyno doesnt exist.

**Myka** · 01-29-2006, 01:36 AM

though it can also be used to increase red blood cells and increase protein synthesis...

**freak_of_nature_86** · 01-29-2006, 01:54 AM

i take a multi vitamin so that should be enough right?

**Myka** · 01-29-2006, 01:58 AM

well...that would depend on how many mg there are in the cap...

**freak_of_nature_86** · 01-30-2006, 12:59 AM

i take animal pak

**956Vette** · 01-30-2006, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

I cant understand why they havnt cleaned that shit up. I wouldnt do any of the cycles recommended there !!!

will be updated VERY soon...those profiles have probably hurt several, including myself

**goalseeker** · 01-30-2006, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

will be updated VERY soon...:

Excellent!!

**Myka** · 01-30-2006, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by freak_of_nature_86

i take animal pak

Supplement Facts:
Container Size: 15 Paks
Serving Size: 2 Paks (22 Tablets)
Servings Per Container: 7.5

Container Size: 44 Paks
Serving Size: 2 Paks (22 Tablets)
Servings Per Container: 22

Amount Per Serving:

Calories: 16
Total Carbohydrates: 1g
Protein: 3g
Vitamin A: 9900IU
(as acetate & 66% as beta-carotene)
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid): 1g
Vitamin D (as ergocalciferol): 680IU
Vitamin E: 300IU
(as d-a-tocopheryl acetate)
Thiamin: 76mg
(as thiamin HCl)
Riboflavin: 76mg
Niacin (as niacinamide): 82mg
Vitamin B6: 72mg
(as pyridoxine HCl)
Folic Acid: 400mcg
Vitamin B12: 6mcg
(as cyanocobalamin)
Biotin: 300mcg
Pantothenic Acid: 76mg
(as calcium pantothenate) Calcium (as citrate, carbonate): 2g
Phosphorus: 228mg
(as calcium phosphate)
Iodine (from kelp): 150mcg
Magnesium (as oxide): 133mg
Zinc (as oxide): 30mg
Selenium (as selenite): 50mcg
Copper (as sulfate): 600mcg
Manganese (as sulfate): 11mg
Chromium (as picolinate): 6mcg
Potassium (as sulfate): 200mg

Amino Acid Blend:
Lysine (from lactalbumin): 300mg
Methionine: 500mg
(from lactalbumin)
Leucine (from lactalbumin): 100mg
V****e (from lactalbumin): 760mg
Threonine (from lactalbumin): 48mg
Glutamic Acid: 700mg
(from lactalbumin)
Phenylalanine: 560mg
(from lactalbumin)
Arginine (as L-arginine)

Performance Optimizers:
Siberian Ginseng (root): 2g
Oriental Ginseng (root): 250mg
Smilax officinalis (root): 500mg
Protogen A (as thioctic acid): 200mg
Inosine: 500mg
(as hypoxanthine riboside)
Pyridoxine a-Ketoglutarate (PAK): 200mg
Carnitine (as L-carnitine): 25mg
Chromium Picolinate: 50mcg
Coenzyme A: 20mg
Coenzyme B12: 10mg
Phosphatidylcholine: 200mg
Para-Aminobenzoic Acid (PABA): 400mg
Colostrum (bovine): 25mg
Argentine Liver (bovinr): 3.9g
Shark Cartilage: 1g
Choline Complex: 1.2g
Bioflavonoids (citrus): 1g

Essential Fatty Acid Complex:
Linoleic Acid: 200mg
Oleic Acid: 100mg

Digestive Enzymes:
Betaine HCl: 200mg
Pepsin: 64mg
Papain: 64mg
Ox Bile (bovine): 120mg
Pancreatin: 700mg
Mycozyme: 64mg

*supplement facts taken from an online nutritional store

As you can see there are 72mg B6 in each pak...you should be fine...

**Njectable** · 01-30-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

will be updated VERY soon...those profiles have probably hurt several, including myself

thats good news bro, i use the profiles on a regular basis but its hard sometimes to determine how much of the information i can actually use and learn from beings the profiles say one thing and people in the forums say another