Thread: Need some help please
01-31-2006, 01:14 PM #1
Need some help please
Okay so I started my cycle last week and it looks like this:
I'm taking the nolva and ldex for bloat and gyno prevention, but my problem is that I'm getting extreme pains in my shoulders, elbows, wrists and forearms since starting the SERM and AI. I started the ldex a few days before the cycle and started having problems on day 0 (day before day 1 of cycle). In the past I had the same problem, but I was using letro so I figured it was just too strong of an anti-e and that was the problem. Now I'm getting it with my current mix and I'm thinking of stopping the SERM and AI alltogether, or maybe even just the AI. I'm either really sensitive to AIs or the Ldex is dosed differently (unlikely). I really didn't want bloat, but gains come before that in my opinion. What do you all think I should do?
01-31-2006, 02:43 PM #2
01-31-2006, 02:48 PM #3
That is odd, I haven't heard that one before. I would try to figure out if its the nolva of the ldex that is causing the pain. Drop one of them and see if the pain continues. If the pain stops, then you know which was causing the pain. If the pain continues, drop whichever one you're using and pick up the one you initially dropped. If that is still causing you pain then they are both to blame. Hope that makes sense. Good luck.
01-31-2006, 02:51 PM #4
Joints are probably dried out from the AI and SERM. By reducing estrogen, hence water, you're taking away some lubrication from your joints. Try cutting back or getting rid of the AI all in all.
If diet is on point just running test and T-bol shouldnt be that bad but we are all different. I definitely suggest cutting one out. If it were me I'd cut out the L-dex and up the Nolva to 20mgs ED
01-31-2006, 02:53 PM #5Originally Posted by JdFlex
When does this pain occur? After excersise? Anytime?
01-31-2006, 02:54 PM #6
Do you have joint problems normally?
01-31-2006, 02:55 PM #7
Priviron is an AI, but isnt as effective as L-Dex. Why not change to this compound? It may help with leaving a slight lubrication for your joints, as Jay said.
01-31-2006, 03:12 PM #8
Yea that's basically what I'm doing now. I've dropped the AI and will give it a week or so to clear out of my system. What JayHova said is exactly what it feels like, as if my joints are very dry and hurt especially when there is pressure put on them.
Originally Posted by Swifto
Originally Posted by MastaAce
01-31-2006, 03:14 PM #9Originally Posted by EdMan2
01-31-2006, 03:17 PM #10Originally Posted by EdMan2
01-31-2006, 04:09 PM #11
It's definitiely the joints. Muscles feel great and the pumps have recently started and they feel amazing. I just haven't been able to push myself hard enough on chest and shoulder days due to this problem.
MastaAce, do you think I can completely rule out the Nolva as the cause of the problem and continue to use it?
01-31-2006, 09:13 PM #12
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