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    Question test en only or with deca?

    me and my gym partner are gonna do a course on test en for deffinate, im debaitin weather to run it with deca . any advice or experiences u can let me know of. cheers

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    im on my fourth cycle bro. I love deca . good keepable gains with little sides for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverenuff21
    im on my fourth cycle bro. I love deca. good keepable gains with little sides for me.
    deca only or is that with test + deca
    Last edited by spencer; 02-02-2006 at 04:44 PM.

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    i've always always always done deca + test and have gotten outstanding results

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    Never Deca on its own, always with Test. Do you know about PCT ? Do this

    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / Week brake into two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / week shot it with the Test twice a week at 150mg

    PCT

    Dont forget the Diet, waste of money otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Never Deca on its own, always with Test. Do you know about PCT ? Do this

    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / Week brake into two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / week shot it with the Test twice a week at 150mg

    PCT

    Dont forget the Diet, waste of money otherwise
    cheers mate. how inportant is pct. ive not bothered with one after my winny course and still feel fine and benching the same weight.

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    what cycle number is this for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    what cycle number is this for you?
    it will be my 2nd

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    test and deca with be my next choices for my upcoming cycle. 3rd cycle for me.

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    what was your first one like?

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    I'm thinking about deca but since I'm under 25 it is little known but deca is the worst acne causing steroid for individuals under the age of 25 so that is something to think about; also deca can cause irreversable gyno which is pretty unstoppable to prevent and it is not caused by estrogen build up but rater progestrone. Another thing to think about is that according to the european medical journals deca only works outstanding for 30% of the population and everybody else is average at best.

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    [QUOTE=billybob13]I'm thinking about deca but since I'm under 25 it is little known but deca is the worst acne causing steroid for individuals under the age of 25 so that is something to think about;

    where did you read this bro?

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    definetly roll deca with test
    spencer i thought you where suppose to stop deca two weeks before test

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollaatyoboy
    definetly roll deca with test
    spencer i thought you where suppose to stop deca two weeks before test
    what do u mean m8. goalseaker my first course was good imo, first few weeks i was slow gettin to the gym due to my sht job at the time but battered the gym last 6 weeks off the course and got much better strength and shape to my shoulders and arms

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    acne will fade. mass will stay. my expirience

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    how bads the achne and wen did it go

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    ive never done deca , ive just done test en, im just sayin acne will come and go but in the end its worth it anyways.

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    sound. effects r diffrant on other people tho?

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    My guess would be yes, but hopefully kale will respond on this one

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    goin on it in about 3 weeks any way no matter wat. fvck the spots

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    PCT is vital bro. It speeds the recovery of your Naty Test Production and therefore ensures you keep those hard earned gains. Its also important if you want your dick to continue to get hard.

    As far as sides on Deca , I never had any. But I am a lot older than you guys. Actually this is the first I have heard that Deca causes bad acne. I personanly think sides are very much an individual thing and you wont really know whats good or bad for you until you try it. Take dbol for example, I tried that once and had nothing but trouble, other guys swear by it. I love Deca. Give it a try. If you want you can do some Viatmin B5 which is known to help control acne.

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    sounds good mate

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    if this is your 2nd cycle and your first was winny, id just use test only for the next cycle also always do good pct,

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    ok still readin about first gaverin opinions and that first b4 i deside wat to take. cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    me and my gym partner are gonna do a course on test en for deffinate, im debaitin weather to run it with deca. any advice or experiences u can let me know of. cheers
    enantahthe test plus deca .

    there are people that hate deca only cycles but i have done deca only cycles and are ok (1 gr nandrolone weekly 3 months).

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybob13
    I'm thinking about deca but since I'm under 25 it is little known but deca is the worst acne causing steroid for individuals under the age of 25 so that is something to think about; also deca can cause irreversable gyno which is pretty unstoppable to prevent and it is not caused by estrogen build up but rater progestrone. Another thing to think about is that according to the european medical journals deca only works outstanding for 30% of the population and everybody else is average at best.
    are you kidding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    are you kidding?
    thanks for ur advice mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    are you kidding?
    thats why I was asking billybob where he read that.. and he didnt answer...
    there are others far worse for acne than deca ...

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    Newbie advise

    I'm only doing my first cycle so I'm not vet although I started a dbol /test-e novice cycle. BRUTAL HEADACHES. My point, since I was unsing two new substances, I didn't know which was causing the sides. Now I know it was the dbol and won't use it again. I'd recommend test-e only. I'm on week five and love it. I'll try deca with test-e next time but I already know how I react to the test-e. Lots of posters here say the same about single compounds until you know how your body is going to react. JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grappler13
    I'm only doing my first cycle so I'm not vet although I started a dbol/test-e novice cycle. BRUTAL HEADACHES. My point, since I was unsing two new substances, I didn't know which was causing the sides. Now I know it was the dbol and won't use it again. I'd recommend test-e only. I'm on week five and love it. I'll try deca with test-e next time but I already know how I react to the test-e. Lots of posters here say the same about single compounds until you know how your body is going to react. JMHO
    great post bro...

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    I would do test+deca ....always works great for me...but dont forget your pct it is the most important thing you can buy....Your going to get some great gains....Good Luck

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    what sort of deca u guys using

    just finished my first course in 4 years and ready to start pct soon

    but already thinkin off my next cycle and think i will throw some deca in there

    been shopping around for it through net but its expensiuve shit compared to test,

    any help on which deca is best and a nudge in the dirrection of where to buy would be gtrateful thanks

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