02-03-2006, 12:22 PM #1
cycle proposal..pref : pinnacle or goose
02-03-2006, 12:32 PM #2
Lean gains depends on diet alot. Although various AS help, the key lies in diet. Have a clean diet, high in clean calories. Low sodium intake, drinking plenty of water. An AI needs be run, to cut out all estrogen related sides, including bloat.
How long you thinking of doing this cycle for? Whats yor cycle experience?
Test Prop/Var/EQ/Masteron /Tbol/Primo/Tren , just to name a few.
02-03-2006, 12:44 PM #3Originally Posted by Swifto
Good combo you posted "G Insulin ",but I'd sub winny for the VAR personally.And you can always run the masteron the last 4 weeks of the cycle when your BF is low enough to see it's effects.Winny/masteron at cycles end is awesome bro
02-03-2006, 01:12 PM #4Originally Posted by Pinnacle
02-03-2006, 01:19 PM #5Originally Posted by Georgie
Do you have some scientific evidence to show that because of the propionate ester,estrogen builds extremely quick?If so,could you post it for all to see?
02-03-2006, 01:21 PM #6
i gain 12or so lbs of water on testE/C and 5lbs of water on Prop.. just a ref for ya
02-03-2006, 01:28 PM #7Originally Posted by Pinnacle
You are correct, eveyone is different. And no i do not have any scientific studies. Like I said, i was speaking from personal expereinces. But this statment is from the steroid profile section stating that prop has a high converstaion rate into estrogen. " Despite the high conversion rate of propionate into estrogen gynecomastia is less common than with other testosterones". It states that although, the converstion rate is high, side effects are less common. But from my experiences, that is untrue. For me, that high converstion rate gives me problems.
02-03-2006, 01:29 PM #8Anabolic Member
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02-03-2006, 01:46 PM #9
i have only 4 cycles under my belt. i've used all compounds except primo and masteron ...favorite by far is tren . i will never have a cycle without tren in it. i never use long esters of test because i hate all that extra water, i like the rock solid look.... im only (220 12 percent body fat). im currently doing a lot of cardio (every morning except legs for 45 minutes as pinnacle suggested). i was looking into t bol to throw in this cycle btw. i was looking at trying to take it 20 weeks. hears what i drew up during work....
week 1-20 125 mg ED/ test prop
week 1-15 120 mg ED/ tren acetate
week 1-17 EQ 600 mg/ week ... shot EOD
week 14-20 var 80 mg per day
any suggestions are appreciated...
Last edited by Got Insulin?; 02-03-2006 at 01:50 PM.
02-03-2006, 01:46 PM #10
if u cant tell im very anal about blood stability...
02-03-2006, 02:15 PM #11Originally Posted by Pinnacle
02-03-2006, 02:19 PM #12Originally Posted by Got Insulin?
02-03-2006, 02:20 PM #13Originally Posted by Swifto
02-03-2006, 02:21 PM #14
yah i was thinking the length was a bit long, cause i remember how i felt at 15 weeks of ED injections. any suggestions or commentary as always is appreciated...
02-03-2006, 02:22 PM #15
you guys think i took the EQ out too long?
02-03-2006, 02:22 PM #16
proposed cycle looks great in my opinion. i for one love longer cycles such as yourself.
02-03-2006, 02:25 PM #17Originally Posted by scotttiger54
02-03-2006, 02:35 PM #18
i love mixing compounds so my cycles are always normally no less then 18 weeks
02-03-2006, 02:36 PM #19
concerning EQ ... i know its different but it's said the average time before u start seeing the effects are around week 7 to 8. when do u think it begins to plateau?
02-04-2006, 05:03 PM #20
ugh i want to chang it up and make it mass at the first 10 weeks and cut the last 10 weeks..im gonna keep working with it lets see
Test E - 1000 mgs/week divided into ED injections for 10 weeks
Deca - 600 mg/week divided into 3 times a week for 10 weeks
EQ- 600 mg/week for for 17 weeks
Anadrol - 100 mg/week for 1st 4 weeks
Suspension-200 mg/ed first 3 weeks
hows that for the first 10 weeks
02-04-2006, 05:34 PM #21Senior Member
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