Ideal test doeage for 174lb guy

**gotenks** · 05-28-2002, 12:28 PM

Ok heres the deal i'm 174 lbs
5 7" been training for years
And i'm 28 in case someone thinks i'm a teenager or something.
And i could do with some advice
i was just wonder whats the best dose for me, ie what would be excessive and what would be ok.
I'm thinkin of running test ethenate Sherring
what i'm, thinking of doings is maybe starting on 1g frontloaded
Then dropping to 750 or 500
i'm not too sure just yet.
I'm gonna be running liquidex throught out so i don't bloat i'm looking to put on size and power but not much fat if i canna help it
I was wonder what would be best
I mean would running 1g for the whole cycle be too much and would i get little benefit in doing it over say 750 or 500 mg
All input is appriciated
I know some of these does sound high but i'm not scared of running high if its gonna give better results.

**big N** · 05-28-2002, 12:58 PM

first off u didnt tell us if it your first or not?ok considering this would be your fist no ned to front load ,second bro more is not always better i mean u dont even know how your body will react to a moderate low dose how u gonna hit 750 mg ?thats alot!size and strength with not to much fat that will dpend on the diet.a nice cycle for youe needs ,my firts like yeeeaaarrrsss ago.

1-8 400 eq
1-8 400 mg test
7-10 50 mg wiiny eod.(since your first)
i wuld add dbol in the begining but dont recomend fo the first one.of course anties on hand u dont wab=nt titties do ya?and clomid 4 days after last winny hit.300mg first day 100 for ten 50 for ten.good luck and stay safe.

**Ajax** · 05-28-2002, 01:32 PM

I agree w/ bigN. Some people would even say that 400-500mg for a first cycle is a lot. But 400-500mg would be the msot I would recommend for a first cycle.

My only change would be to run the test one week longer than the EQ (EQ metabolizes out in 17-21 days, test En/Cyp in 14 days) and run the winny weeks 7-11, then start Clomid.

EQ 300-400mg/wk; weeks 1-8
Test En/Cyp 250-400mg/wk; weeks 1-9
Winny 50mg daily weeks 7-11

Clomid as per bigN; can start as soon as 24-48 hours post-last winny tab; 48-72 if you are using Zambon injectable winny.

**gotenks** · 05-28-2002, 03:28 PM

Ok guys i'll stick to 500mg throughout
I don't really feel like doing anything other than test i wanna see how i react to the test alone.
About the clomid i'm porb gonna run throughout the whole cycle
Yep this is my first cycle did anavar early in the year but i reckon thats pretty mild and i wouldn't class it as a cycle
For growing titties i'm going for thge liquidex
I've been hearing good stuff about this and i wanna try it.
As for winny and eq o don't think i can do em as i'm gonna take proscar to combat the hairloss on the test
So it will be basically the test
Or maybe an oral like d-bol or a-bombs to kick start it

**4plates** · 05-28-2002, 05:02 PM

your a guy about my size,if its your first or even 2nd cycle you will get great results wqith 500 mg wk
definitly run dbol (not drol) 35-50 mg ed wk 1-4 and run the test for 10 wks

**gotenks** · 05-28-2002, 05:07 PM

Thanks man
I was favouring the d-bol anyway
Wasn't too sure about the A-bombs

**4plates** · 05-28-2002, 05:10 PM

yeah save the a bombs for down the road when 50 mg dbol dosent work so well anymore

**Ajax** · 05-28-2002, 11:20 PM

If you worry about hairloss forget the Abombs--I have never had hairloss problems until I tried Abombs--it fell out like mad.

Originally posted by gotenks
About the clomid i'm porb gonna run throughout the whole cycle

Bzzzzzt! Wrong answer! (I am amazed you dodnt catch that one 4Plates! At least I get to say something other than "what 4plates said" this post!)

Q: What is Clomid? How do I take Clomid?

A: Clomid (clomiphene citrate) helps the male testes to restore natural testosterone production. Clomid is taken on the following schedule: 300mg the first day, 100mg a day for the next ten days and 50mg a day for another 10 days.

Click here for an excellent FAQ on Clomid.

Q: When should I start Clomid after my cycle?

A: When the LAST of the steroids are out of your system. Here is a chart that illustrates how long it takes specific steroids to get out of your system:

Anadrol : 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca : 3 weeks after last injection and Clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon : 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate : 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enathate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol : 8 – 12 hours after last administration

Wait until ALL the steroids you have taken have been metabolized! For example, if you stop taking testosterone enathate (2 weeks) and Winstrol (12 hours) at the same time, wait 2 weeks!

***the original jason*** · 05-28-2002, 11:53 PM

eq has no intervention with proscar you can run them both together just cos itworks in a similar way to deca doesnt mean you cant use proscar with it

peace

**gotenks** · 05-29-2002, 02:45 AM

Are u sure about EQ i thought it had a very similiar mechansim to deca and thus should be avoided while on proscar.
heres what the cycles' taking shape as

week 1-10 test ethan 500mg
proscar 1/4 tab ED
saw palmetto 300mg ED
1/16 cc liquidex ED

I was gonna do clomid EOD throughout the cycle but i'm uncertain about that now. BUt now i'm gonna do it post cycle.

week 11 300mg then 100mg for ED
week 12 and 50 mg ED

But otherwsie thats it