The sust wont draw into my needle!! WTF?

[Peter]

Guys, i had a problem....Once the amp was opened I put the needle in the liquid and pulled up. The needle did not take in the liquid. I tried with a diffrent needle and the same thing happened. I then put a piece of tape over the amp and will use it next time. What was I doing wrong???
-Pete

[Pete235]

Nothing. Sust is an oil based roid so if you're using anything smaller than an 18g pin to draw, it's gonna take a long time. Just leave the pin in and pull on the plunger...make sure the plunger stays pulled so the vacum will draw up the oil. Like I said, be prepared to wait a while. If you can, but some 18g pins for loading, then switch before you actually inject.

[4plates]

your using too small gauge needle probably 23 or 25 g
try using an 18 g you can get them at www.getpinz.com.
you can buy just the pin,they fit most syringes

[silverfox]

can warms amp up a bit under hot water 1st too that helps.

[Sicilian30]

Originally posted by 4plates
your using too small gauge needle probably 23 or 25 g
try using an 18 g you can get them at www.getpinz.com.
you can buy just the pin,they fit most syringes

Umm I think you have it backwards there eh? 23 and 25 gauges are larger than 18's.
Anyways, two things could be happening. First off as everyone else says, your trying to pull your gear thru a 18 gauge pin. Even 23 Gauger takes some time.
Now the second problem is I have noticed this. Make sure the pin (yes the needle itself) is screwed into the syringe tightly. I had the same thing happen to me. When my stuff shipped all my pins were not screwed tightly to the syringe itself. This will cause the vaccumm action not to work when you pull the plunger.
If you use a 23 gauge, it takes alittle longer to draw up the oil, just raise your plunger to 1 CC and hold it there, while having the pin into the oil. Release and pull back again on the plunger every now and then to let the air bubbles settle down until you get all the oil sucked up in the syringe.
You should see a few bubbles coming up if you look at the pin.

[Pete235]

Originally posted by Sicilian30
Umm I think you have it backwards there eh? 23 and 25 gauges are larger than 18's.

Nope sorry S30...18's are much thicker than 23's or 25's. 18's are like harpoons

[Peter]

ok i have 25 G needles that seems to be the problem.....What is the perfect size needle for me to use for sust 250???
-Pete

[Sicilian30]

I use 23-25 gaugers. I have no problems. 23 gaugers works better for me. Doesn't take that long to inject and to draw up.
Yeah Petey you are right, I must have been high when I wrote that. boy what was I thinking?

[Hitman]

just remember to swap the 18gauge for a 23gauge after youve drawn the oil or its gonna hurt lol

[alevok]

I used 22 1/2 gauge (black cover) durýng my stay ýn US. It takes time but sure it works

[REM]

remember the bigger the # the thinner the needle
orifice and the smaller the # the bigger the needle orifice, personally i always use size 23 1' for both purposes it takes a little long to draw but not a big deal needle pain very very slightly

[Billmister]

dude don't worry about it i get the same problem. When you pull, keep pulling all the way up and then let go so the air pushes out, and then pull again, chances are you will see a shit load of bubbles go in the syring and then the sus will start comming in. after you the the whole sus in remove the syringe and hold up right side up and flick for all the air to leave the syring and push the air out

[D3m3nt3d]

I draw with 18 and inject with 23

[REM]

basic method 18 to draw 23 to inject..
but sometimes there's only 1 size so you deal
with it. i draw and inject with 23 1'
no problem...