05-30-2002, 07:45 AM #1Member
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Blood test results of week 3 of prop/anadrol
I went to the dermatologist for my checkup and he had sent me for a blood test to see if I could use accutane. Funny part is I was in week 3 of my anadrol /prop cycle and fucked up all the results, but here is what he got from it. HDL is down, LDL is up, cholesterol is at 263, it should be at 200, so that is what prop & drol does to you. Now he wants me to see my doc, but I know why the test was all screwy so when I'm done with clomid, I'm going to have another blood test done in a few months to make sure everything is cool. Any vets have any advise or suggestions??
05-30-2002, 08:51 AM #2
jersey.....start on 500mg of niacin a day....it will raise your hdl and lower your ldl....when your off the juice it will improve also, but the niacin will improve it to a greater degree and alot quicker....
05-30-2002, 09:19 AM #3Donating Member
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starting watching your diet, try and eliminate foods with high cholesterol. Oat meal is really good at bringing hdl up and ldl down. the hdl is more important.
Practical Ways To Change Your Diet
Here are some tips on how to choose foods for the Step II
To cut back on saturated fats, choose:
* Poultry, fish, and lean cuts of meat. Remove the skin
from chicken and trim the fat from meat before cooking.
* Skim or 1 percent milk instead of 2 percent or whole
* Cheeses with no more than 3 grams of fat per ounce (these
include low-fat cottage cheese or other low-fat cheeses).
Cut down on full-fat processed, natural, and hard cheeses
(like American, brie, and cheddar).
* Low-fat or non-fat yogurt, sour cream, and cream cheese
instead of the high-fat varieties.
* Liquid vegetable oils that are high in unsaturated fat
(these include canola, corn, olive, and safflower oil).
* Margarine made with unsaturated liquid vegetable oil as
the first ingredient rather than hydrogenated or
partially hydrogenated oil. Choose tub or liquid
margarine or vegetable oil spreads. The softer the
margarine, the more unsaturated it is. If you are
watching your sodium intake, try unsalted margarine. Use
the food label to choose margarines with the least amount
of saturated fat.
* Fewer commercially prepared and processed foods made with
saturated or hydrogenated fats or oils (like cakes,
cookies, and crackers).
* Foods high in starch and fiber such as whole wheat breads
and cereals instead of foods high in saturated
Cutting back on saturated fat helps you to control dietary
cholesterol as well, because cholesterol and saturated fat
are often, but not always, found together in the same foods.
Two additional points to remember when cutting back on
dietary cholesterol are:
* Strictly limit organ meat (such as liver, brain, and
* Eat a total of two or fewer egg yolks a week (as whole
eggs or in prepared foods). Try substituting two egg
whites for each whole egg in recipes, or using an egg
To include more foods high in starch and fiber, choose:
* More vegetables and fruits. It is recommended that
Americans eat five servings of fruits and vegetables
every day. They are low in saturated fat and total fat
and have no cholesterol. Fruits and vegetables are good
sources of starch, fiber, vitamins, and minerals and are
low in sodium. They are also low in calories (which
helps with weight control) except for avocados and
olives, which are high in both fat and calories. Many
fruits and vegetables are also high in vitamin C, vitamin
E, and beta-carotene--so-called "antioxidants." A diet
high in these fruits and vegetables may also help to
lower risk for heart disease. So fruits and vegetables
are great substitutes for foods high in saturated fat and
* Whole grain breads and cereals, pasta, rice, and dry peas
You should also cook the low-fat way:
* Bake, broil, microwave, poach, or roast instead of
breading and frying.
* When you roast, place the meat on a rack so the fat can
Read Food Labels
We've already mentioned that reading food labels will help
you choose foods low in saturated fat, total fat,
cholesterol, and calories. Food labels have two important
parts: nutrition information and an ingredients list.
Read the nutrition information.
Look for the amount of saturated fat, total fat,
cholesterol, and calories in a serving of the product.
Compare similar products to find the one with the least
amounts. If you have high blood pressure, do the same for
Look at the ingredients.
All food labels list the product's ingredients in order by
weight. The ingredient in the greatest amount is listed
first. The ingredient in the least amount is listed last.
So, to choose foods low in saturated fat or total fat, limit
your use of products that list any fat or oil first--or that
list many fat and oil ingredients. If you are watching your
sodium intake, do the same for sodium or salt.
05-30-2002, 10:43 AM #4Member
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great info guys thanx!! funny thing is that my glucose was 64 and 61 is the lowest. sodium and everuthing else were normal & my diet consists of 6 chicken cutlets ed, veggies, protein and steak or chicken for dinner. BTW FYI, the blood was taken during a normal day, no fasting and I ate about 1hr before the test, it was not a planned test.
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05-30-2002, 11:19 AM #5
The AMA recommends that along with diet changes, that patients start on niacin before attempting medications such as cholestran etc..
I just assumed your diet was intact r/t your lifting history….
niacin (nicotinic acid) is an inexpensive way to reduce cholesterol levels in your blood. it reduces levels of total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL, the "bad") cholesterol by 30 percent, reduces triglyceride levels 30 percent, increases high-density lipoprotein (HDL, the "good") cholesterol 30 percent, and reduces Lp(a) lipoprotein. the most common side effect is flushing, a warm feeling in the skin usually associated with redness, and sometimes itching. although many people can develop tolerance to this effect quickly, some people cannot take even low doses of niacin because of this effect. taking niacin at the end of a meal on a full stomach can help to prevent flushing. niacin should always be started at a very low dose and built up gradually over time. niacin can have other effects. one is a skin rash often seen on the back of the neck or in the armpits. it is not dangerous but can be bothersome.
There have been several medical studies that show niacin is very effective…for the AMA to endorse it, you know it has been tested to death…
Make sure you don’t eat 12 hours before the test is done or you will get higher cholesterol and triglyceride numbers….
05-30-2002, 11:22 AM #6Member
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Got it, thanks!!
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