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    built2k is offline New Member
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    navy and roids

    does the navy test for anabolics when they give a random urinalysis. Please i need to know!!!1 Im shrinking and its time to grow again...but i dont what to fuck up my career. Is there anyplace i can find the answer. Thanx

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    I'm in here with the rest of YOU!
    Not unless you are suspected or gear is found in your possesion!
    They test for the "Party drugs" IE ; Weed, Coke, Speed!

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    tanguy is offline Associate Member
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    iknow many in the service that juiced. all those jarheads in calli go to mex and juice. the military is broke. they only test for the basic 4 drugs as stated above

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    by the way i was in the service

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    DOD Urinalysis (Drug Test) Program

    DoD labs test 60,000 urine samples each month. All
    active duty members must undergo a urinalysis at least
    once per year. Members of the Guard and Reserves must
    be tested at least once every two years. There are
    several protections built-in to the system to ensure
    accurate results.

    First, individuals initial the label on their own
    bottles. The bottles are boxed into batches, and the
    test administrator begins a chain-of-custody document
    for each batch.

    This is a legal document Everybody who has had
    something to do with that sample signs it - whether it
    be the observer who watched the person collect the
    sample, the person who puts it into the box or the
    person who takes it out of the box. There is always a
    written record of who those individuals are.

    The chain-of-custody requirement continues in the lab
    as well. People who come in contact with each sample
    and what exactly they do to the sample are written on
    the document.

    After arrival at the lab, samples then undergo an
    initial immunoassay screening (using the Olympus
    AU-800 Automated Chemistry Analyzer). Those that test
    positive for the presence of drugs at this point
    undergo the same screen once again. Finally, those
    that come up positive during two screening tests are
    put through a much more specific gas
    chromatography/mass spectrometry test. This test can
    identify specific substances within the urine samples.

    Even if a particular drug is detected, if the level is
    below a certain threshold, the test result is reported
    back to the commander as negative.

    DoD labs are equipped to test for marijuana, cocaine,
    amphetamines, LSD, opiates (including morphine and
    heroin), barbiturates and PCP. But not all samples are
    tested for all of these drugs.

    Every sample gets tested for marijuana, cocaine and
    amphetamines, including ecstasy. Tests for other drugs
    are done at random on different schedules for each
    lab. Some laboratories do test every sample for every

    Commanders can request samples be tested for steroids .
    In this case, the samples are sent to the Olympic
    testing laboratory at the University of California at
    Los Angeles.

    Commonly available substances such as golden seal and
    lasix are often touted as magical substances that can
    mask drugs in urine. In fact, they can make it easier
    to get caught. These substances are diuretics, so if
    they're taken before giving a urine sample they flush
    chemicals out of the body - right into the collection
    cup. Drugs are often more concentrated in the urine
    after a service member takes one of these substances.

    And other "sure-fire" solutions are even worse for
    you. Some people drink vinegar. There are stories of
    some people drinking bleach. None of these will defeat
    the urinalysis test.

    Over- the-counter cold medications and dietary
    supplements might cause a screening test to come up
    positive, but that the more specific secondary testing
    would positively identify the medication. In this
    case, the report that goes back to the commander says

    How the results of drug tests can be used legally,
    depends upon the reason for the urinalysis test.

    Random Testing. By regulation, each military member
    must be tested at least once per year. Reserve members
    must be tested at least once every two years. This is
    done by means of "random testing." Basically, a
    commander can order that either all or a
    random-selected sample of his/her unit be tested, at
    any time. Results of random testing can be used in
    court-martials (Under Article 1128a of the Uniform
    Code of Military Justice), article 15s (nonjudicial
    punishment), and involuntary discharges. This includes
    using the results to determine service
    characterization (honorable, general, or
    other-than-honorable). Members do not have the right
    to refuse random testing. However, commanders cannot
    order specific individuals to take a "random" test.
    Those selected must be truly "random."

    Medical Testing. This is testing which is accomplished
    in compliance with any medical requirements.
    Urinalysis tests given to new recruits falls under
    this category. As with Random Testing, results can be
    used in court-martials, article 15s, and involuntary
    discharges, to include service characterization.
    Members do not have a right to refuse medical testing
    in the military.

    Probable Cause. If a commander has probable cause that
    a person is under the influence of drugs, the
    commander can request a search authorization from the
    Installation Commander, who is authorized to issue
    "military search warrants" after consultation with the
    JAG. Again, results of urinalysis tests obtained
    through search authorizations can be used in
    court-martials, article 15s, and involuntary
    discharges, including service characterization.
    Members cannot refuse to provide a urine sample which
    has been authorized by a military search warrant.

    Consent. If a commander does not have probable cause,
    the commander can ask the member for "consent to
    search." If the member grants consent, the results of
    the urinalysis may be used in court-martials, article
    15s, and involuntary discharges to include service
    characterization. Under this procedure, members do not
    have to grant consent.

    Commander Directed. If a member refuses to grant
    consent, and if the commander does not have enough
    evidence to warrant a probable-cause search warrant,
    the commander may order the member to give a urine
    sample anyway. However, commander-directed urinalysis
    results may not be used for court-martial or article
    15 purposes. The results MAY be used as a reason for
    involuntary discharge, but MAY NOT be used to
    determine service characterization. In other words,
    the member can be discharged, but what kind of
    discharge he/she receives (honorable, general,
    other-than-honorable) depends upon his/her military
    record (WITHOUT using the urinalysis results).

    DOD Urinalysis (Drug Test) Cutoff Levels)
    Drug Screening Level (Nanograms per milliliter)
    Confirmation Level (Nanograms per milliliter)
    THC (Marijuana) 50 NG/ML 15 NG/ML
    Cocaine 150 NG/ML 100 NG/ML
    Morphine 2000 NG/ML 4000 NG/ML
    Codeine 2000 NG/ML 2000 NG/ML
    Heroin (6 MAM) 300 NG/ML 10 NG/NL
    Amphetamines 500 NG/ML 500 NG/ML
    Methamphetamine 500 NG/ML 500 NG/ML
    MDA/MDMA (Ecstasy) 500 NG/ML 500 NG/ML
    Barbiturates (Amobarbital, butalbital, Pentobarbital,
    Secobarbital) 200 NG/ML 200 NG/ML
    PCP 25 NG/ML 25 NG/ML
    LSD .5 NG/ML 0.2 NG/ML
    Drug Detection Windows
    Drug Detection Windows
    THC (Marijuana) 3-5 Days*
    Cocaine 2-4 Days
    Amphetamines 2 Days
    Barbiturates 1-2 Days
    Opiates` 1-2 Days
    PCP 5-7 Days
    LSD 1-2 Days
    Steroids 3 Days or Longer**

    * Longer than 5 days is indicative of chronic or heavy
    ** Length of detection determined by type and duration
    of use.

    Basically, don't tell anyone, hide your gains, lied and say you're doing andro, norandro, creatine..., don't piss off you boss or any officers, especially commander...have your stuff mailed off base..pobox, mbe...and you're good to go.

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    TheDfromGC is offline Anabolic Member
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    testing peoples urine doesnt seem like it would be a fun job

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