hardness??

**Ice_cold** · 06-02-2002, 10:07 PM

as of the last few months I have noticed Im getting soft in my upper body.my legs are pretty hard but my chest and bis and the rest are getting really soft.have not hit a cycle yet just wondering if the test alone will help(prolly not) harden me up alittle.I know I can get hard on some other stacks but Im just wondering if test alone will help with that?

**bigkev** · 06-02-2002, 10:21 PM

test probably wont do the job alone bro.

**Anabolism** · 06-02-2002, 10:35 PM

Winny would

**EXCESS** · 06-02-2002, 10:44 PM

What's your bodyfat %???

T200/Eq/Winny would be a good start, but diet is the most important factor.

**Ice_cold** · 06-02-2002, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by EXCESS
What's your bodyfat %???

T200/Eq/Winny would be a good start, but diet is the most important factor.

Im thinking about 15-17% far as I can tell it is around the gut,go figure.damn maybe I should drop some more fat befor I hit the gear? but my lifts have not gone up in like the last 4 months.most of the time it's a fight just to keep my lifts from going back down.if I start to diet down and run,my lifts start to drop big time.

**Tapout** · 06-02-2002, 10:59 PM

thats normal bro what i do is e-c-a- stack or ripped fuel type drugs-up my protein and drop carbs and i get leaner without losing size and strength
as a matter of fact i thought i was getting hard and lean until my wife,son and i went to the beach with juice junkie and his family along with king samson this weekend- i realized i need to put my fat ass on the stepper cause those 2 are lean and jj is ripped

**partyboynyc** · 06-03-2002, 11:35 AM

i have always sworn that density comes from low BF % (below i would approximate 8%, i'm 6.1 now maybe less, i was tested over a month ago and getting leaner, and i'm a hard fucker now), proper hydration, and a sound diet. anything else thrown in the mix is just a plus.