Anabolic/Androgenic Ratios

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03-27-2006, 09:31 AM
lifthard2005

Anabolic/Androgenic Ratios

these were all taken from the steroid profiles forum on this site and compiled here for quick reference. I was looking for these a little while back and never got a listing, when I found them on this site, I simply threw them together for us to checkout.

Anadrol 50:
Androgenic: Anabolic Ratio: 45:320

Anavar:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 322-630:24

Androil:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 100:100

Andropen 275:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range):100:100

Deca-Durabolin:
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 125:37

Dianabol:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 90-210:40-60

Equipoise:
Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: 100:50

Halotestin:
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:1,900/850

Masteron:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio:62:25

NPP:
Androgenic/Anabolic ratio: 37:125

Omnadren:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio: 100:100

Oral Turnibol:
Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: >100:>0

Parabolan (Tren):
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 500/500

Primobolan:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 88:44-57

Proviron:
Androgenic: Anabolic Ratio:30-40/100-150

Sustanon 250:
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100

Testosterone Cyp, Enanthate, Prop, Suspension
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100

Winstrol:
Androgenic/Anabolic Ratio:30:320

Hope this helps some of you :aaGreen22
03-27-2006, 11:09 AM
hosam4ever

bump
03-29-2006, 09:18 AM
lifthard2005

bump
03-29-2006, 10:42 AM
AnabolicAndre

holy crap HALO
03-29-2006, 11:22 AM
trulbfan3

sounds like halo is about to get mighty popular
03-29-2006, 11:58 AM
Testostack

love that tbol thang........can't wait to get my hand on it, along w/some test e maybe...:wg:
03-29-2006, 12:01 PM
AnabolicAndre

How can t-bol have less than 0 for its androgenic number??

What does it make your hair grow back??? ahah
03-29-2006, 02:15 PM
tvd220

Is that halo rating accurate? If so.....I might look into it.
03-29-2006, 02:21 PM
neverenuff21

Ttt^^^^
03-29-2006, 02:21 PM
BajanBastard

A.A ratios can be very misleading.
03-29-2006, 02:26 PM
tvd220

tell me about it...
03-29-2006, 05:00 PM
Testostack

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre

How can t-bol have less than 0 for its androgenic number??

What does it make your hair grow back??? ahah

:haha:
03-29-2006, 08:55 PM
Milky87

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnabolicAndre

How can t-bol have less than 0 for its androgenic number??

What does it make your hair grow back??? ahah

Thats actuallya 'greather than' sign.
03-30-2006, 03:48 AM
ace ventura

Can someone explain this to me... Can't figure it out :)

Does this indicate how strong a steroid really is? EQ shows 100:50 and is said to be half as androgenic as testosterone.. If this would be correct then anavar is 3-6 times more anabolic than testosterone.. It doesn't make sence and I know I must be missing something...
03-30-2006, 07:36 PM
Milky87

those values were determined by comparing the effect ot testosterone on the seminal cessel and lavitar ani muscle in mice compared to a control group. Aparently, they found that boldenone induced the same level of hypertrophy as testosterone (judged by the levator ani) but only half the androgenicity (determined by the seminal vessel).

Unfortunatly, these test were done in rats and not humans so these figures can not be taken over into the real world. Not to mentio nthat diet and exercise /may/ also change the results
03-31-2006, 04:52 AM
Testostack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milky87

those values were determined by comparing the effect ot testosterone on the seminal cessel and lavitar ani muscle in mice compared to a control group. Aparently, they found that boldenone induced the same level of hypertrophy as testosterone (judged by the levator ani) but only half the androgenicity (determined by the seminal vessel).

Unfortunatly, these test were done in rats and not humans so these figures can not be taken over into the real world.

Not to mentio nthat diet and exercise DO also change the results
03-31-2006, 05:01 AM
Warrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milky87

those values were determined by comparing the effect ot testosterone on the seminal cessel and lavitar ani muscle in mice compared to a control group. Aparently, they found that boldenone induced the same level of hypertrophy as testosterone (judged by the levator ani) but only half the androgenicity (determined by the seminal vessel).

Unfortunatly, these test were done in rats and not humans so these figures can not be taken over into the real world. Not to mentio nthat diet and exercise /may/ also change the results

Right, those numbers are used to gauge how androgenic the steroid is... when compared to testosterone.

Science has routinely tried to create a purely anabolic steroid - but this still remains impossible. To clear it up - high androgenic affinity does not mean a better performance gain... and the highest anabolic ratio does not always mean the best performance steroid either. Like big k.l.g said, it can be misleading if you misinterpret the info. BTW - higher androgenic steroids can lead to more undesirable results like BPH...

The therapeutic index (TI) is a little easier to understand... but I am not sure where to get those numbers off the Net...
03-31-2006, 06:10 AM
arnold_of_malta

so proverone is stronge as deca?????????????
03-31-2006, 06:23 AM
BajanBastard

Nope.
03-31-2006, 07:46 PM
Fastandfurious

I actually find the index very useful and for the most part accurate with the results we get from the various substances if we look closely at their net effects on muscle gain.The therapeutic index is into those numbers as well.
For example,800mg/ew of deca would give the same anabolic effect as 1000mg/ew of test or 200mg of tren.Or 45mg/ed of winstrol or anadrol.
If you take out the whole water retention,estrogenic and androgenic sides and consider the length of use for each it makes a lot of sense.

The ones i find hard to believe would be halo (too high) and turinabol (ana/andro =53/6 too low).
This would mean that in order to get the same anabolic effect as 1000mg/ew of test you'd only have to take 7,5mg/ed( ! ) of halo or as high as 269mg/ed ( ! ) of turinabol .
03-31-2006, 08:26 PM
BajanBastard

I think the majority are misleading. Eg: 500mg Tren should give an individual 5 times the muscle gains as the same amount of test.
03-31-2006, 09:00 PM
powerliftmike

Quote:

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

I think the majority are misleading. Eg: 500mg Tren should give an individual 5 times the muscle gains as the same amount of test.

Agreed. Like anavar being more anabolic than drol??

Quote:

Halotestin:
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:1,900/850

Oh yea!!!!!!!!
03-31-2006, 09:02 PM
powerliftmike

You forgot Cheque drops tho :evil2:

Quote:

Detection Time: Immediate (only)
Androgenic:Anabolic Ratio: 250:590
03-31-2006, 09:08 PM
Kappa Capo

I dont even care, i know what compunds i use and they are all good baby:wg:
I dont like things like this because they can be very wrong and then it f-u-c-k-s your cycle.
03-31-2006, 09:24 PM
BajanBastard

Ha! Methyltrienolone has an A:A ratio of 12000+/6000+

I win :D
08-17-2007, 11:15 PM
projekt

sure this thread is old, but what they hey...
Anavar has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 10:1 compared to test which has 100:100 this was posted in a medical journal that was doing researc on burn victims. additionally dBol is 2x as strong as test. i think the ratios are terribly flawed.
08-17-2007, 11:29 PM
AnabolicBoy1981

Quote:

Originally Posted by projekt

sure this thread is old, but what they hey...
Anavar has an anabolic/androgenic ratio of 10:1 compared to test which has 100:100 this was posted in a medical journal that was doing researc on burn victims. additionally dBol is 2x as strong as test. i think the ratios are terribly flawed.

So do i. Besides, i think some ppl react to certain things better. I know guys whi say nadrolone is better than test, and there are guys that say test is beter than nandy. Just depends sometimes.
08-17-2007, 11:49 PM
Indymuscleguy

Chemistry is chemistry. Chemistry and individual body homeostasis is all together another story. Our genetic make-up is what sets the tone for, well, uhh, everything.

I do want to point out recent data suggest that premature babies, once grown, or...well also when they are developing, have more chronic health issues than a 'full term' baby.

For example...I am the youngest of seven kids in our family. I was born at 30 weeks wei***ng in at 3lbs. (38 to 41 weeks is considered 'term') In those days...yes I'm old...an event such as that, the infant mortality rate was 90% or more.

I have many 'overactive' auto immune disorders.

1. Psoriasis (since college)- scalp and back (UVA and steroid creams keep it at bay)
2. Ulcerative Colitis Dx '99 - Total colectomy in 2005 w/J-pouch re-construction. YEP, no colon fellas!! And no ostomy bag either!!
3. Graves Disease 2007 - Fiinally have a TSH of 10 (was 0, then to 95 in three months)
4. Akilosing Spondolitis ... currently developing, we think.

Research, research, and research. Find a doc that will listen, not prescribe, just listen. It's expensive to do such a venture...office consults are $200 to $400 bucks...but if you schedule an annual physical...the costs could be less.
08-17-2007, 11:53 PM
Indymuscleguy

It's 2 AM and I'm not sure that last post made sense, but my point is, trial and error comes into play. You will find some compounds will work well for some, but does zilch for others.

There are so many factors to consider and figure into the grand plan for a cycle, that one needs to learn more about chemistry. I am thankful for the moderators and fellow bodybuilders who advise the best they can.

Just be smart and when asking for advice on a product or compound...what's good for one, may not work as well for you. Don't blame the messenger...it takes a while to figure out what works...and boy, when you do...you'll know it!