1st cycle

**thegame01** · 06-09-2002, 02:08 AM

go down 3 post ,i reposted for better replies
thanks

**Ajax** · 06-09-2002, 09:10 AM

Ther post is hard to read Bro! No paragraphs, no psaces between sentences--and there is no background on you!

Read the link listed below--you might want to try re-posting this with a little more background info and some puncctuation to get some more responses...

G-S · 06-09-2002, 09:35 AM

That hurts my eyes.

**thegame01** · 06-09-2002, 10:29 AM

1st cycle ever soon and i had afew questions.
one i was looking at 4 kinds of A.S:
deca
primo
winny
sust

now i dont want to stack with more then 2 of them .i was thinking
deca200mg/wk and winny eod , deca and primo200 mg each or
deca and sust 200 mg each. Does any of these cycles sound ok?
The deca and winny was recomended to me before .
Does deca dick happen at low doses?
Is deca one of the safest as they say on this site?

anavar was rated the safest along with primo.Isnt anavar an oral which means it's bad for the liver eventhough it is a weak oral?

What about winny i also read in the safest steroid post that winny is bad for the liver ,but is that only the case when taken the orals?
And what about the injectable winny?

Is it true that on a first cycle they say you should stay away from any test products?

With deca at low doses ,nolvadex should not be needed right?
Of course clomid would be part of my cycle as it always has to be to retain gains or is that true even if someone is not on test products (which means your own test is not lowered)?

i would like to hear from alote of the ppl as thise site sometimes contradicts what it's memebers are saying. i have read tons of info on it but because i want to be conservative it makes choosing a cycle that much harder.this site will say that deca is one of the safest and mildest steroid around yet some people say the shit is bad .I want to go real light on my first cycle.

i am only looking for 10-15lbs.
sorry guy's for the fucked up post ,this i hope is better
1- i have read all the drug profile more then once and go back to it often
2-i think the subject line is ok
3- i think the post is readable(punctuations etc)
4- i have read it over and it makes sense to me bro

BTW what are you saying ? my question wasn't a smart one lol
i appreciate the honesty and reply bro

my background : i am 5'8" at 190lbs 12% bf
12yrs experience in the gym
all natural obviously
my diet is awesome
i work extremely hard in the gym,everything to failure
hope this was a better post bro and that you will give me some imput now
thanks guy's

**Methuselah** · 06-09-2002, 10:37 AM

Don't worry, all orals are bad for the liver but safe for short cycle kept under 8 weeks. You should use test with all bulking cycles, test is the best for the fisrt cycle.

Here's a nice first cycle for you...

Week 1-10 Sust 250-500 mg
Week 1-10 Deca 300-400 mg
Week 1-8 Winny 50 mg ed

**thegame01** · 06-09-2002, 07:05 PM

bump

**4plates** · 06-09-2002, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Methuselah
Don't worry, all orals are bad for the liver but safe for short cycle kept under 8 weeks. You should use test with all bulking cycles, test is the best for the fisrt cycle.

Here's a nice first cycle for you...

Week 1-10 Sust 250-500 mg
Week 1-10 Deca 300-400 mg
Week 1-8 Winny 50 mg ed

this cycle looks good but i would switch thing around just a little
wk 1-10 sus 500 mg wk
wk 1-10 deca 400 mg wk
wks 7-13 winny 50 mg ed(tab or inj same thing)
clomid 2 days out
easy 15lbs

**thegame01** · 06-09-2002, 07:48 PM

i was hoping to only have to put one needle 2 at the most a week in my ass lol. Winni tabs or injectables are the same ? even for the side effects to the liver etc.
thanks for the replies guy's and can anyone answer some of my questions above. I am still looking for some of the answers.