**Testosterone PROPIONATE: The ULTIMATE Testosterone!**

[( Ross )]

**Testosterone PROPIONATE: The ULTIMATE Testosterone!**

By Ross

*SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS can result from using Testosterone Enanthate, Cypionate, and multi-ester preparations like Sustanon and Omnadren.

*Side effects include SEVERE ACNE, Gyno(Development of breasts), Edema(Estrogenic Bloating) Hairloss, and LONG-TERM HPTA Shutdown.

Testosterone Propionate DOES not induce these side-effects*

Bloating, Acne, and Gyno are the result of UNSTABLE testosterone/estrogen/DHT blood levels.

Long acting esters like Enanthate produce DRAMATIC FLUCTUATIONS in testosterone/estrogen/DHT blood levels, resulting in the aforementioned side-effects.

Due to the Propionate ester, this form of short-acting testosterone is IN AND OUT of the body VERY quickly(2 days), which allows us to more ACCURATELY CONTROL OUR TESTOSTERONE DOSAGES!

Because PROPIONATE is In and OUT of the system so quickly, one can CONTROL their dosage, and thereby MINIMIZE side-effects. Therefore, typical side effects like Gyno, water retention, and Acne RARELY occur on Propionate. One can also opt to DISCONTINUE the testosterone propionate BEFORE PITUITARY SUPRESSION OCCURS. (A topic I discuss more in another article)

Testosterone Propinate also has the advantage of ONLY being detectable for 2 weeks, whereas Enanthate is detectable for up to 13 months! This illustrates how the Ester still effects the body LONG afer discontinuing the cycle. This is why LONG-TERM HPTA inhibiton occurs on Long test esters.

HPTA Recovery is SWIFT with Propionate as well, also due to its short half-life. (As Inihibition can be controlled) Furthermore, the ester does NOT LINGER in your system for MONTHS like Enanthate or cypionate , but rather, clears COMPLETELY in 2 weeks!

Testosterone Propionate is the ONLY Tetsosterone I use. I suggest starting at 75mgs ED, and working up to 100mgs ED (+)

SO--let us Recap. testosterone Propionate:

• Causes MINIMAL Bloating
• Does NOT cause severe ACNE in most individuals
• Does NOT cause Gyno in most individuals
• Starts acting FASTER
• Leaves your system FASTER
• More controllable dosages
• Faster HPTA Recovery

(Testosterone)
4-androstene-3-one, 17beta-ol

Testosterone base + Propionate ester
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 74.0792
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester): C3H6O2
Melting Point (base): 155
Melting Point (ester): 21C
Manufacturer: Various
Effective Dose (Men): 350-2000mg+ week.
Effective Dose (Women): 50-100mgs/week
Active life: 2-3 days
Detection Time: 2-3 weeks
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.



[R]

[Tren Bull]

why do you bother posting here? youl probably be banned by the time i submit this post

[thegodfather]

appearently....it causes brain damage as well...

[SMAN12b]

Gee Ross, if thats how you feel about Prop, tell us why not test suspension then ...............

[( Ross )]

Suspension has it's ROLE.

However, REMOVING the ester COMPLETELY, also affects it's ACTIVITY(as with Prop and Enanth)

Side-effects can also result from SUSPENSION because remember--stable blood levels are HARD to maintain on suspension. And because it has NO ester, you can expect some serious blood SPIKES.


[R]

[Tren Bull]

Gee Ross, if thats how you feel about Prop, tell us why not test suspension then ...............

mmm test suspension. ive heard great things about that.

[( Ross )]

In general, it is EASIEST to maintain stable levels with Propionate , as it is designed to extend activity PERFECTLY, IMO.


[R]

[Bigmax]

Booz,Nark,where are you when we need you????????????

[BajanBastard]

Your detection time on testosterone enanthate ester is off........... by months. Once the ester is cleaved off testosterone is testosterone and testosterone doesn't leave any long acting metabolites like the 19-nors.

Also side effects are easily controlled with aromatize inhibitors and 5AR blockers.

[Bigmax]

In general, it is EASIEST to maintain stable levels with Propionate , as it is designed to extend activity PERFECTLY, IMO.


[R]

[( Ross )]

*UP* to 13 Months.

And although it does not have any ACTIVE steroid metabolites, ESTROGEN and DHT ARE affected by the ESTER of choice.

Enanthate causes a LONGER supression by mere virtue of having to run it for a longer period of time.


[R]

[Liftnainez]

lol i still dont understand why he gets banned.. he may be cocky but who the hell cares.. i find him entertaining and helpful at times.. it just annoys me with people who dont even know the story just say ban him and shit.. every1 is entitled to their own opinion..

[Tren Bull]

*UP* to 13 Months.

And although it does not have any ACTIVE steroid metabolites, ESTROGEN and DHT ARE affected by the ESTER of choice.

Enanthate causes a LONGER supression by mere virtue of having to run it for a longer period of time.


[R]

say what you want, but i still love test e

[BADASS323]

whos this guy....do we hate him or what???

[thegodfather]

Ross.....can I use Turinabol with Test Prop or will that cause some kind of synergistic reaction which would result in my testicles exploding?

[Tren Bull]

whos this guy....do we hate him or what???

there were rumors going around about ross being a scammer. i dont know the whole story though

[Liftnainez]

whos this guy....do we hate him or what???

mostly people dont even know his story and just talk shit and say ban him.. people hate him bc his opinions and beliefs and the way he says things.. i actually find him helpful at times, but thats me..

[thegodfather]

lol i still dont understand why he gets banned.. he may be cocky but who the hell cares.. i find him entertaining and helpful at times.. it just annoys me with people who dont even know the story just say ban him and shit.. every1 is entitled to their own opinion..

Usually for giving dangerous advice...although I find some of his ideas intriguing..

[Liftnainez]

Also by the looks of his avatar his physique seems great.. he must be doing something right- so by just ragging on him and talking smack I feel more people should be giving him credit instead of the continous bashing.. so what if hes cocky or isnt correct 100% of the time.. I believe he is trying to help out not hurt anybody.. just bc he doesnt agree with test always doesnt make him wrong..

[BajanBastard]

there were rumors going around about ross being a scammer. i dont know the whole story though

Yeah that's what i was told as well.

[Tren Bull]

mostly people dont even know his story and just talk shit and say ban him.. people hate him bc his opinions and beliefs and the way he says things.. i actually find him helpful at times, but thats me..

i think the main reason people talk sh_t about ross is cause he would always say bad things about testosterone

[Liftnainez]

Usually for giving dangerous advice...although I find some of his ideas intriguing..

dangerous advice? Please show me this? I am not trying to start an argument bro but I just dont see where it is.. bc he said Test prop is better? bc he says u can stack tbol and anavar .. bc you can use eq w/o test??? I dont see the dangerous advice..

[BADASS323]

mostly people dont even know his story and just talk shit and say ban him.. people hate him bc his opinions and beliefs and the way he says things.. i actually find him helpful at times, but thats me..

this is the first time ive seen him post.i'll reserve judgement for myself

[( Ross )]

Testosterone is GREAT!

But the ESTER changes it's ACTIVITY--we can't forget that.

You are all my bros here--we are IN THIS SHIT TOGETHER!


[R]

[Liftnainez]

i think the main reason people talk sh_t about ross is cause he would always say bad things about testosterone

Well it seems that he has changed his side on that which many people do.. now he likes test prop.. and just bc he has a diff opinion i dont think he should get banned, but hey thats just my opinion.. trenbull i respect you as a member and your advice as well.. i just feel like he could help out people, thats all.. you know what I mean?

[( Ross )]

Liftnainez--

Thanks for the kind words my man

[Tren Bull]

Well it seems that he has changed his side on that which many people do.. now he likes test prop.. and just bc he has a diff opinion i dont think he should get banned, but hey thats just my opinion.. trenbull i respect you as a member and your advice as well.. i just feel like he could help out people, thats all.. you know what I mean?

yea i hear you bro. honestly i dont have anything against ross, unless the rumors of him scamming people is true.

[Liftnainez]

Liftnainez--

Thanks for the kind words my man

Not a prob. bro.. I just see everybody giving you a hard time and I just cant agree with it.. If they want to disagree that is fine, but for you to be banned and say your an idiot- i just dont see why..

[HORSE~]

I enjoy reading his post to but if you are baned you can't just change the way you sign your name and get back in.

While he is here I'll enjoy hearing what he has to say!!

[( Ross )]

All it takes is ONE person--and BOOM--You are a scammer.

I have never scammed ANYONE--fiscally or financially.


[R]

[Liftnainez]

yea i hear you bro. honestly i dont have anything against ross, unless the rumors of him scamming people is true.

yea bro i def am with you on that- if he is or was i def do not agree or respect some1 who scams.. that just low.. I do not THINK he was a scammer or ever even sold juice. I am not 100% sure on this but I dont think he was..

[Bigmax]

Ross.....can I use Turinabol with Test Prop or will that cause some kind of synergistic reaction which would result in my testicles exploding?

ROLMAO.................

[BajanBastard]

*UP* to 13 Months.

And although it does not have any ACTIVE steroid metabolites, ESTROGEN and DHT ARE affected by the ESTER of choice.

Enanthate causes a LONGER supression by mere virtue of having to run it for a longer period of time.


[R]

It's STILL off by MONTHS! Testosterone 's detection time is solely based on the test/epitest ratio and active live of the hormone. As long as test/epitest levels are at baseline you're in the clear. As i said before estrogen and DHT can be controlled with proper ancillary usage. I agree testosterone propionate is the ideal test ester to use but not for the reasons you have stated.


Awww Ross you have members fightin' over ya!

[Bryan2]

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION FOR YOU ROSS

how much money do you make by giving out your 'advice' to people???


You sign up all the time under new names and pimp yourself quite a bit

im kind of interested to see how much money you actually make

[Teabagger]

Well whatever, Ross you do draw a crowd. I've never read anything by him that was dangerous or harmful. I think sometimes the forums here can have a mob mentality whereby 1 vet/senior member has a problem with someone and many others jump on the bandwagon. Just my 2 cents.

[Liftnainez]

Well whatever, Ross you do draw a crowd. I've never read anything by him that was dangerous or harmful. I think sometimes the forums here can have a mob mentality whereby 1 vet/senior member has a problem with someone and many others jump on the bandwagon. Just my 2 cents.

Exactly what I have been saying and trying to show people.. I agree!

[Bigmax]

Testosterone is GREAT!

But the ESTER changes it's ACTIVITY--we can't forget that.

You are all my bros here--we are IN THIS SHIT TOGETHER!


[R]

Ok ross I guess the guys are right.So is prop working the best for you now????

[( Ross )]

It's STILL of by MONTHS! Testosterone 's detection time is solely based on the test/epitest ratio and active live of the hormone. As long as test/epitest levels are at baseline you're in the clear. As i said before estrogen and DHT can be controlled with proper ancillary usage. I agree testosterone propionate is the ideal test ester to use but not for the reasons you have stated.


Awww Ross you have members fightin' over ya!

Aromatase inhibotrs and 5A-Reductase Inhibs are effective, although I would never want to remove DHT from my cycle--this is simply foolish.

Big, i always enjoy the discourse.


[R]

[thegodfather]

Well it seems that he has changed his side on that which many people do.. now he likes test prop.. and just bc he has a diff opinion i dont think he should get banned, but hey thats just my opinion.. trenbull i respect you as a member and your advice as well.. i just feel like he could help out people, thats all.. you know what I mean?

lol...I was just breaking his balls...Ross is definately a character...Its nice to see he has opened up to test...by dangerous I mean he was absolutely denouncing the use of testosterone in ANY cycles, at least thats what I believe the mods banned him for...

[Tren Bull]

yea bro i def am with you on that- if he is or was i def do not agree or respect some1 who scams.. that just low.. I do not THINK he was a scammer or ever even sold juice. I am not 100% sure on this but I dont think he was..

i dont know man, i remember reading some posts that made ross look pretty guilty of scamming