I have only been a member of this board a short time, but i have been working out for proably six serious years and really had never gotten the results I wanted. I am very pleased to report the through extensive research experimenting and work I have put on a lean 15 lb in 1 and a half months and am continuing to grow (which is a huge jump when you start from 155lb!). Thanks so much to everyone who took time to answer my questions and give input and to any newbies out there I have as my quote: DEDICATION IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS. These words are oh so true.