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    Prop Vs. Dbol to kick start a cycle

    What do you guys think would be a better choice for me?


    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30-35mgs ED
    Weeks 1-10 Eq 400mgs
    Weeks 1-10 Enanthate 400mgs
    Weeks 8-13 Winny 50mgs ED

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    Weeks 1-3 Prop 100mgs EOD (or 50mgs ED)
    Weeks 1-10 Eq 400mgs
    Weeks 1-10 Enanthate 400mgs
    Weeks 8-13 Winny 50mgs ED

    I'm running L-Dex EOD at .5-1mg
    And ala, etc...

    What do you guys think? Prop or dbol ?

    I was leaning more towards the prop so i could give my liver a break. And I don't mind being a pin cushion so don't bring that up please.

    Will the dbol give me better pumps? And is it worth it?

    Thanks.

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    Prop just cause thats what I decided to try:-).

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    yea the dbol will give u better pumps ,and better gains ,more strength,why do both for teh first week .and then start the eenthate where u left off?

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    Originally posted by big N
    yea the dbol will give u better pumps ,and better gains ,more strength,why do both for teh first week .and then start the eenthate where u left off?
    You mean start the enanthate at week 4?



    That wouldn't work, cause the only reason i'm taking one of the other two is so I'll have some pumps before the enanthate kicks in.

    I'm not sure exactly what you meant, my response might be wrong.


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    Well, no dispute but the flip side to D-Bol giving you better pumps and what not is that it is water weight mostly in the end if I'm not mistaken. Granted, you may "feel" more of a pump but for my money and what not I'd hit the Prop, wouldn't worry about the pump, and take the strength and more permanant(sp?) growth.

    Hell, I'm certainly no expert but you seemed to have laid out a nice cutting cycle that shouldn't hold much water, really almost none with the Dex in there at .5-1mg a day. Why fuck with the bloat from dbol when everything else in there is set not too as is?

    Another excelent option would be Fina 75mg/ed. I'm of a different opinion of most and would run it the whole damn cycle, most would say 6-8 weeks but I had no problems at 12 weeks at 150mg's/ed. Everyone is different though! Now for my little experience I will say that when my winny kicked in I had a hard time working out some muscles because of the freaking pumps, I mean PAINFULL pumps, down right anoying at times. My forearms esp when I would do any bicep work, oh my god. Sad but true, my forearms are almost the same size as my damn biceps, and they pump like no other muscle, accept my calves.

    If it were me I would do this:
    Weeks 1-4 Prop 100mgs ED
    Weeks 5-15 Tren 75mg ED (or 7-15 if your concerned)
    Weeks 1-12 Eq 400mgs
    Weeks 1-13 Enanthate 500mgs
    Weeks 9-15 Winny 50mgs ED
    L-Dex EOD at 1mg ED with a taper down at the end
    Clomid for the end as usual

    Take this with a grain of salt if you like, I've only done 1 cycle. However, from that cycle I now know what tolerances my body seems to have. The little things like 50mg's of winny ED didn't do it, 75mg ED worked like a charm, I had to double the Fina as well. Most drugs are that way for me though, everyone is different.

    Just my 2cc's,

    DMX

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    Do them both...why not!!!

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    Like your cycle bro heheh exactly the same as mine i think im gonna end up doing. As you are im still contemplainting between prop or dbol as well, tough decision. By the way you got mail bro.

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    Originally posted by canadian_mofo
    Like your cycle bro heheh exactly the same as mine i think im gonna end up doing. As you are im still contemplainting between prop or dbol as well, tough decision. By the way you got mail bro.
    I think I'm gonna end up using the prop.

    By the way you got mail now.

    My goal was minimal bloat so it would make real sense to just drop the dbol and stick with the prop.

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    I would go with the prop.

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