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    canadian_mofo is offline Associate Member
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    Need HCG or no??

    here is the cycle im planning and it would be my first..

    weeks 1 - 10
    500mg/week test enethate
    400mg/week EQ

    weeks 7 - 12
    winny oral 50mg/ed

    weeks 1 - 4
    dbol 40mg/ed

    L-dex entire cycle


    Just wondering about the nuts. Does clomid thereapy bring them back post cycle or is HCG a good idea run through the cycle.

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    canadian_mofo is offline Associate Member
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    Bump anyond have answers?

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    No you don't want to use it throughout your cycle. If you are concerned about the size of your testes, and you shouldn't be, then maybe in 8 you would use it for 5 days at 500-1000iu/day. But I wouldn't. Just use it in 12-13 for 10 days at 1000iu/day with nolvadex and then start the clomid in 14

    I changed that ^^^
    Last edited by ulter; 07-15-2002 at 07:22 AM.

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    Originally posted by ulter
    No you don't want to use it throughout your cycle. If you are concerned about the size of your testes, and you shouldn't be, then maybe in 8 you would use it for 5 days at 500-1000iu/day. But I wouldn't. Just use it in 12-13 for 10 days at 1000iu/day with nolvadex and then start the clomid in 15.
    But shouldn't the clomid be started after the winny? Like 12 hours after last tab?

    Or am I wrong?

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    canadian_mofo is offline Associate Member
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    yeh i was under that impression also or you lose gains

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    Start Clomid 2 days after your last dose of winny. You don't need HCG .

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    Originally posted by YoUnG1


    But shouldn't the clomid be started after the winny? Like 12 hours after last tab?

    Or am I wrong?
    Yes you can but I like to give the Nolva a week to clear so it doesn't mess up the clomid.
    Last edited by ulter; 07-15-2002 at 07:23 AM.

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