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    help me finalize my 1st cycle

    test enth. wks 1-8
    eq wks 1-7 (is that right)
    and clomid weeks 11-13, how much should i take?
    Will this help me keep ALL strength and size gains?
    thanks fellas

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    why run the eq only till 7 and the test longer?run them both 8-10 weeks ,clomid 3 weeks after last injection,300 the fist day ,then 100 for ten days ,50 ten ,

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    You won't keep all your size and strength gains but you will keep most. I would run that cycle at least ten weeks.

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    how much

    How much of the eq and enth should i run a week?
    how many injections a week?
    do i mix them?
    thanks

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    Here is a sample:

    week 1-10 500mg test enth.-two injections of 250 mg(Mon/Thur)
    Week 1-10 400mg EQ-two injections of 200mg(Mon/Thur)

    You can mix the two in the same syringe.

    If you have access to prop or Dbol I will change that cycle.

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    You are right about extending the Test. Test takes 2wks to leave the body while the EQ will take 3wks.
    Your cycle is looking pretty short though
    I would run this

    Wks 1-11 400mg Test
    Wks 1-10 400mg EQ
    Clomid Wks 13-16 on a 300/100/50 split
    Nolva on hand
    Arimidex advised

    Depends on what kind of EQ you get for the injection frequency
    Both can be mixed
    Last edited by Pheedno; 07-23-2002 at 08:53 AM.

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    how much nolvadex , ill read up on armidex cuz i dont know what it is

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    Arimidex is an anti estrogen. Usually one gets liquidex- the liquid form (obviously) 'cuz it's cheaper.
    Novaldex can hinder the gaines somewhat- liquidex doesn't.

    and it's a better anti-e. It stops the aromatization to estrogen. nolva just competes for the same receptors as estrogen. And I read that running arimidex during the clomid helps recovery.

    And liquidex has a pleasing nutty flavor.

    And IMO jump start the cycle with d-bol if you can get it. It is soooooo good. mmmmmmm...



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    ok, so INSTEAD of nolva use armidex or liquidex? so have this on hand, or run it consistenly, if so, how much? ill try of the d bol, what is ie like 25 mg ed for 2 weeks? thanks

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    yes liquidex is the goods. Run 0.25mg ED for the whole cycle and all the way through clomid. 0.5 is better to help the water bloat from the test, but .25 is nice too and will prevent gyno.

    but bloat should be minor with 400 test and .25mg liquidex.

    As for d-bol- yes 25-30mg ED is good for a first cycle. Quite good actually
    For the first 5 weeks I'd say. 3 minimum. it takes the Eq 4-5 to really get going.

    And test500/eq400/d-bol40 was my second cycle.. Great great stuff




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    Originally posted by Rickson
    Here is a sample:

    week 1-10 500mg test enth.-two injections of 250 mg(Mon/Thur)
    Week 1-10 400mg EQ-two injections of 200mg(Mon/Thur)

    You can mix the two in the same syringe.

    If you have access to prop or Dbol I will change that cycle.
    If he had prop, what would you suggest???

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