skinny guy

**manny** · 07-26-2002, 11:16 PM

Is it possible for an ectomorph like myself who has been training naturally with the exception of creatine/andro/whey protein for the past 4 1/2 years to make solid gains i.e 10-15lbs taking 250mg of sustanon a week for 10weeks??? I'm 5'11 right around 180lbs. I eat pretty healthy and I get a lot of cals but I can't seem to put on much mass. would 250mg be sufficient for a first time user to AS?

**Big_BoneZ** · 07-26-2002, 11:21 PM

yeah manny that looks like a OK cycle, but it would be beneficial if you could get some Dbols, if you run them @ 25-30 mg ED, it will help you bring your test levels up right away

**psychopath** · 07-26-2002, 11:52 PM

Why waste your 1st time potential by half assin the cycle? Bump it up to 500mg/test/week and 30-35mg dbol for the first 4-5 weeks. Maybe even throw deca or eq in at 200-400mg/week and grow like crazy. your first cycle is always your best, so y waste it?! i wish i knew then what i knew now. id be a lot farther ahead if i had this info back then. good luck bro!

Psycho

**budman_z71_24** · 07-27-2002, 12:28 AM

Your age is an important factor in helping you Bro. If you are 20 years old are older I would go with Psychopath on this one. Make sure to have clomid and nolvadex post cycle.

**manny** · 07-27-2002, 08:04 AM

I'm not looking to get really big bc I have to play baseball and I can't get too bulky. I'm not trying to be half-assed about this stuff, but you have to realize that I'm using AS as a stepping stone to gaining bc I have such a hard time putting anything on. Trust me if I put on 12-15lbs of lean muscle I would be completely satisfied.

**D3m3nt3d** · 07-27-2002, 10:42 AM

If you have never done a cycle, 250mg will be fine, remember in future cycles your going to have to bump the dose up, so why not start low considering your body produces on avg 70mg test/wk..good luck

**steelcurtain16** · 07-27-2002, 01:15 PM

i gained 15 to 16 lbs with 300 test 300 eq and 50 of winny every day 4to 6weeks i also took arimedex and ate clean

**Grant** · 07-27-2002, 06:06 PM

ectomorph, good label, did you take a sports medicine class, you probably have a body type like me and being 180 all natural is a pretty good feat, if this is the first time you will grow well but keep the carbs and protein up like never before

**4plates** · 07-27-2002, 06:46 PM

comming from another ecto bro,the key is not how much gear.its really going to come down to how much you eat.eat big,eat alot,eat every 2-3 hrs.eat burgers,tuna,eggs,chicken,then for lunch eat them all again.
high calories about 5000. and 300 grams of protien,dont worry about how much fat,your ecto body will have no problem shedding it