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    Finally decided on New Cycle, help Critique!!!

    Whats up..ive finally decided on my next cycle, ive been changen it around ever since i decided to do another one..so here it goes,

    4 Bottles Tornel T200
    2 Bottles TT EQ
    200 TT 10mg Dbol

    and i dont know whether to throw in some TT winny, at 50mg or 100mg for a 20ml bottle?

    i was thinking this for a set up:
    Weeks 1-10: T200 @ 800mg a week
    Weeks 1-10: EQ @ 400mg a week
    Weeks 1-4: Dbol @ 30-40mg a day

    then if i throw in that winny..
    Weeks 6-10: Winny 50mg EOD or 100mg EOD, this is what i need you guys help with i dont know wat dosage, or how i would go about taken winny?

    Then Nolva for when im on the dbol, how many nolvas should i get, i was just planning on getting enough for 20mg ED for 2 weeks, so 14 tabs.

    And Clomid for after cycle, 30 Tabs? Start when? 3 weeks after last shot?

    I need help bro's so let me know what u can do for me..thanks

    Dave...

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    Extend the test a week longer
    do winny up until clomid

    Start clomid on week 13

    Your going to want more Nolva incase gyno from the test appears. 70+ tabs

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    I agree and will add, run your winny at 50mg ed you'll get beter results. Also I'd only use the novladex IF you get signs of gyno.. novladex has been shown to reduce gains.

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    Originally posted by Pheedno
    Extend the test a week longer
    do winny up until clomid

    Start clomid on week 13

    Your going to want more Nolva incase gyno from the test appears. 70+ tabs

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    just to throw in...i dont have access to Winny 50mg Tabs, so i was goin to get TT winny either the 100mg or 50mg injectable. at 20ml bottles

    dave..

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    I agree with Pheedno, but I would run the winny 50mg every day.

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    i agree as well,
    run the winny weeks 8-13 @50mg ed. start your clomid the day after winny is done, that way you have no down time while waiting for the test/eq to clear. good luck, and have a great cycle.........


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    so i should be running the winny @ 50mg ED for 5 weeks, 8-13 doesnt that = 6 weeks?

    wat if i did 100mg eod?

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    its your call bro, one week on the winstrol aint gonna make or break you, just make sure you plan to finish up at the time you need to start your clomid.


    peace bb79

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    yea im gunna get the 100mg 20ml Ttokkyo StanolV...and i'll just do a 1/2cc ED, but that will only last me 40 days...is that enough, will that do the job, or is it not really worth it???

    And can someone help me with a layout of how i should be running this cycle, when i should be taken everything, etc. etc.

    Thanks

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    soo just to finalize it..

    Weeks 1-4, 10mg Dbol @ 30-40mg ED
    Weeks 1-10, T200 @ 800mg a week
    Weeks 1-10, EQ @ 400mg a week
    Weeks 8-13, Winny (injectable) @ 50mg ED
    Week 13, Clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg 10 days, 50mg 10 days.

    How much Nolva will a need? 20mg ED right, when i see signs off gyno?

    And i planned on Shooting every Monday and Thursday, is there any problem with that, since thursday is only 2 days from monday, then monday is 3 days from thursday???????

    And is it okay to mix the 2cc's of T2 with 1cc of EQ every shot?

    thanx
    dave..

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    Looks solid to me Bro. Good luck with your cycle.




    Peace, Budman

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    I would extend the test a week longer
    Start clomid at regular time
    On the Nolva, 70+ pills
    Monday, Thursday is good for injects
    And yes you can mix the two

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    if i extend the test a week longer i would have to get another bottle, so does 1 week really matter, will it make or break the cycle?

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    Originally posted by HalOd03
    if i extend the test a week longer i would have to get another bottle, so does 1 week really matter, will it make or break the cycle?
    No, one week is not going to break you. It's just prefered due to the shorter half life. I would start clomid 2-1/2 wks out instead of 3 though.

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    a point to keep in mind........

    if you mix the 1cc of eq with the 2 cc's of test, thats a 3 cc shot, pick your sites wisely.......no tris, or bis, and i'd be a just a little careful with the delt area as well. it can be done in the delts, but make sure you inject very slowly.

    peace bb79

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    barbells...thats bringing up a good point.......does it really matter the site where i shoot it? Like if i just shoot it in my ass for the whole cycle, will that matter?? Or say one week on a monday i decide to shot 1cc of t200 and 1/2 cc of EQ in my left delt then equal that on my right delt...does it really matter that much, cuz i planned on just doin my delt and ass...

    Probably goin to start spot shooting when i start the winny...

    Thinking about it....why not just on Mondays i do what i just said split it up between 2 shots..for each Delt. Then on Thursdays do 1 3cc shot on either cheek...

    Sound good??

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    hey bro,
    it dosent really matter where you shoot, provided its only glutes and/or delts. if it were me i would divide the gear into 2 equal shots on monday and thursday and rotate between the the glutes and delts.(4 sites total) you dont want to over shoot in one particular site, especially when you have plenty available. for that matter, you could bring the quads in if you need them. but for what youre doing, no bis or tris, and no calves either. hope this cleared things up for ya a little.....

    peace bb79
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    aight so, i should do 1.5cc of T200 and 1/2cc of EQ on each of my delt on monday...then on thursday do the same thing just rotate cheeks...??

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    ok,
    i'll see if i can explain this once more.
    monday
    draw up 2 cc of t200 and 1cc of eq into one syringe. shoot it.......delt, glute, wherever.
    thursday draw up 2cc of t200, and 1cc of eq into one syringe. shoot it in the opposite muscle.
    in the next week, move to another muscle group and repeat..........
    if you start with delts in week one, move to glutes in week 2 and back to delts in week 3........ok?

    peace bb79

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    yea that sounds good, i was just suggesting the 1.5 and 1/2 because i thought u said 3cc in one spot was a little too much....but when it comes time to shot up, i'll decide what to do...Im weird, if i decide to shot my delts, i'd shot one side, then after i'll think to myself if i dont shot the other side, it wont grow as much as the other one...so i like to even things out more..

    know wat im sayen?

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    i know what youre sayin.........

    3 cc's is a lot, but i didnt say it couldnt be done, i just want you to inject SLOWLY...........ok? especially in the delts, glutes wont be much of an issue.

    peace bb79

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    alright man, thanks for all the help! If i have anymore ??? i'll let you know, but the gear should be arriving this week sumtime, and im goin to start monday!! Peace

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