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    Proviron....could it

    Hey bros, Question? Could Proviron be a viable option to using Clomid or Nolv?


    Proviron has four distinct uses in the world of bodybuilding. The first being the result of its structure. It is 5-alpha reduced and not capable of forming estrogen, yet it nonetheless has a much higher affinity for the aromatase enzyme (which converts testosterone to estrogen) than testosterone does. That means in administering it with testosterone or another aromatizable compound, it prevents estrogen build-up because it binds to the aromatase enzyme very strongly, thereby preventing these steroids from interacting with it and forming estrogen. So Mesterolone use has the extreme benefit of reducing estrogenic side-effects and water retention noted with other steroids, and as such still help to provide mostly lean gains. Its also been suggested that it may actually downgrade the actual estrogen receptor making it doubly effective at reducing circulating estrogen levels.

    The second use is in enhancing the potency of testosterone. Testosterone in the body at normal physiological levels is mostly inactive. As much as 97 or 98 percent of testosterone in that amount is bound to sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin, two proteins. In such a form testosterone is mostly inactive. But as with the aromatase enzyme, DHT has a higher affinity for these proteins than testosterone does, so when administered simultaneously the mesterolone will attach to the SHBG and albumin, leaving larger amounts of free testosterone to mediate anabolic activities such as protein synthesis. Another way in which it helps to increase gains. Its also another part of the equation that makes it ineffective on its own, as binding to these proteins too, would render it a non-issue at the androgen receptor.

    Thirdly, mesterolone is added in pre-contest phases to increase a distinct hardness and muscle density. Probably due to its reduction in circulating estrogen, perhaps due to the downregulating of the estrogen receptor in muscle tissue, it decreases the total water build-up of the body giving its user a much leaner look, and a visual effect of possessing "harder" muscles with more cuts and striations. Proviron is often used as a last-minute secret by a lot of bodybuilders and both actors and models have used it time and again to deliver top shape day in day out, when needed. Like the other methylated DHT compound, drostanolone, mesterolone is particularly potent in achieving this feat.

    Lastly Proviron is used during a cycle of certain hormones such as nandrolone , with a distinct lack of androgenic nature, or perhaps 5-alpha reduced hormones that don't have the same affinities as DHT does. Such compounds, thinking of trenbolone , nandrolone and such in particular, have been known to decrease libido. Limiting the athlete to perform sexually being the logical result. DHT plays a key role in this process and is therefore administered in conjunction with such steroids to ease or relieve this annoying side-effect. Proviron is also commonly prescribed by doctors to people with low levels of testosterone , or patients with chronic impotence. Its not perceived as a powerful anabolic, but it gets the job done equally well if not better than other anabolic steroids making it a favorite in medical practices due to its lower chance of abuse.
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    Good post.

    I am assuming that you are talking about during the cycle rather than after the cycle to help kick start natural production.

    If you are talking about after the cycle, clomid is suppossed to be better than proviron .

    If you are talking about during the cycle, it seems that proviron would be a good choice even though it is listed as an androgenic compound compared to an estrogen such as nolvedex. Kind of confusing.

    I am also interested in proviron. I want to take it with some fina to combat any problems relating to lack of testosterone in the bloodstream during the cycle. Seems like a good substitute for water retaining test and will keep the jimmy working the same. In fact a side effect is over stimulation.

    Bump for better info.

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    Hey bro, Yes im asking about taking it during cycle. It seems like it would be a good substitution to the other anti-e's out there?. And the reason why i mentioned the clomid is because taking the Proviron during cycle helps keep natural test going. os would clomid be needed if ur taking Proviron? Any Vets or MODs have an opinion on this?? Thxs

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    from what I have read and understood, proviron doesn't keep the natural test going. If I am mistaken, Clomid will not either. HCG might be a better option during the cycle. I forget why, I just remember tidbits of what I read. I am sure someone has a more scientific answer.

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    i plan on runnin it with my fina, but im just usin it to get my dick up if it fails to work and make my muscles a little harder..im not usin it as a antie, i might add it to post cycle with clomid to help a little.

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    Originally posted by shonuff
    i plan on runnin it with my fina, but im just usin it to get my dick up if it fails to work and make my muscles a little harder..im not usin it as a antie, i might add it to post cycle with clomid to help a little.
    Are u going to run it from start to finish of cycle? And how many mgs?
    Iv read to start 2 weeks into cycle at 25mgs ed?

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    Bump...come'on guys. give us some info plz..

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    Hey bros, i'd still like to get some feed back on this plz!

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