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    hardgainer21 is offline Junior Member
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    see what you guys think

    Hi guys, im new to the forum and would like to thank you for all your help. Ive designed this as my first cycle. Any informed opinions would be appreciated. Im 20 years old 5'10 150. 1 yr exp. plan on keeping diet clean and the program high intensity.

    wk 1-11 cyp
    wk 1-10 eq
    wk 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
    wk 7-13 winny tabs 50mg ED
    liquidex at .5mg throughout
    wk 13-16 clomid + clen eca stack

    also what are your opinions on running an anti catabolic with the clomid until natural test levels had come back? ex. clen

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    150 lbs...at 5'10...is light....id recomend...re-evluating your diet and training routein....gain some more naturally

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    i agree with you, i dont plan on starting for awhile, but was wondering what you thought of the cycle

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    No intension to flame you or anyone else here... But what's with all the new guys here, that are around 150 to 175lbs. You have a lot of growing to do naturally! You need to figure out the nutritional aspect of your program before any steroid will work. Just sticking your ass does not get you to where you want to be... Sorry...

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    correct, the nutritional aspect is integral. and i would advise everyone thinking of using to wait at least for a year, but i would stop at trying to put a weight standard for newbies, being a lard ass doesnt make you a better canadate for doing steroids , i think its your level of commitment.
    plus the thread is asking for comments on the cycle

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    A year doesn't even begin to cover it.... I wouldn't recomend a "lard ass" to do a cycle anymore then I would a person at 150lbs. Neither have the commitent you are talking about.

    As far as your cycle... that is a standard cycle. It is a good one to start with.

    Sorry if I offended you or anyone!

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    im running the cyp and eq at 400mg throughout

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    The cycle looks good.

    I would lower the dose of dbol (being your first cycle) to 30mg ED and up it if you need to. Other than that it looks great....make sure to have your ALA and IMO...i would run the ALA ALL the way through the cycle at 1g ED. The only reason being is b/c you are going to be running 2 17aa roids so you want to keep your liver values in check.

    Good luck!
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    yeah, ill drop the dboll dose, and good tip on the ala

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    Well you probably do want to wait a little until you put on a better base but let me just say that looks like a well thought out cycle with good knowledge of esters and proper ancillaries. It is nice to see someone do their homework.

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    thanks bro

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