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    PumpedMuscle is offline New Member
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    End of cycle questions

    First, some background:
    Current cycle since late May:
    Test: (currently Omnadren )-250mg, 2X/wk;
    Deca : 100 mg, 2X/wk;
    D-bol: 6 25 mg tabs 5X/wk.
    Stats:6 ft, went fr 180 to 200 lbs

    End cycle on Labor Day (1 week). Plan to use Clomid and HCG around 9/15.
    For Clomid have heard:
    300 mg-1st day
    100 mg-day 2-7
    50 mg-day 8-14
    I have brand name Ova-mit.
    Question: Is this correct amounts? 300 mg on 1st day seems like a lot!!??

    What quantity for HCG (I have brand name Novarel-10,000 USP units, 10 ml)??
    Thanks for any advice bros.

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    Clomid is spot on, HCG should be run before clomid, I personnally don't rate HCG.

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    Why don't you like HCG and why run it before Clomid?

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    basically:

    Administering HCG directly after gear usage helps to reduce this condition because HCG increases the testosterone production in the testes very quickly. In the event of testicular atrophy caused by mega doses and very long periods of usage, HCG also helps to quickly bring the testes back to their original condition (size).

    Although HCG causes a quick and significant increase of the endogenic plasma- testosterone level, it is not a perfect remedy to prevent the loss of strength and mass at the end of a steroid treatment. HCG does stimulate endogenous testosterone production, however it does not help in reestablishing the normal hypothalamic/pituitary testicular axis. The hypothalamus and pituitary are still in a refractory state after prolonged steroid usage, and remain this way while HCG is being used, because the endogenous testosterone produced as a result of the exogenous HCG represses the endogenous LH production. Once the HCG is discontinued, you must still go through a re-adjustment period. This is merely delayed by the HCG use. For this reason take Clomid following HCG as clomid does stimulate the HPTA. So my feeling is why take HCG if it is clomid which does the job of stimulating the body's natural testosterone production.

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