Decisions, Decisions...What does everyone think???

**jmac** · 08-30-2002, 08:38 PM

Hey Bros,
Man I had it all worked out, got all my shit and ready to get going on my second cycle. But then I started second guessing. So I was wondering what some of the vets would do in my situation. I just finished my first cycle and will begin clomid therapy in three days.
The first cycle looked like this:

weeks 1-2 500 mg sust
weeks 3-8 250 mg sust

That's it, weak I know, but I've learned alot since.
This is what I had planned for my second cycle (after the proper lay off time, of course)!

weeks 1-10 500 mg Testoprim-D
weeks 1-10 400 mg Norandren
weeks 1-4 30 mg ed of D-bol

But, now I'm leaning toward this:

weeks 1-10 400 mg T200
weeks 1-10 400 mg Eq
weeks 1-4 30 mg ed of D-bol

The change of heart came mainly from the negative things I've heard about the Testoprim-D, which could be substituted by T200 for those thinking I should go with the Deca rather than Eq. My goal as you can tell is bulking, but I like the idea of looking a little harder and vascularity(explains the Eq).

Help me out Bros, thanks.
By the way plenty of Nolva and Clomid on hand (I'm learning)!!!!

jmac

**KeyMastur** · 08-30-2002, 09:23 PM

Looks very similar to my next cycle, except I will be throwing Winny in towards the end. Gonna be a killer. Be sure to measure everything before you start it and compare to how you did when it's 3 weeks completed. Even take some pics. I'll be posting some once again in 3 weeks when I start up again. I cannot wait !

**jmac** · 08-30-2002, 09:51 PM

You must be doing the first cycle right? Winny for coming off deca ?

**KeyMastur** · 08-30-2002, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by jmac
You must be doing the first cycle right? Winny for coming of deca?

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My next cycle looks like this :

1-4 d-bol @ 40 - 50 mg's day
1-10 t-200 @ 400 mg's week
1-10 eq @ 400 mg's week
8-12 winny @ 50 mg's day

and then of course clomid to follow. plus, i'm probably going to run 20 mg's nolva throughout. don't want to take that chance.

**EXCESS** · 08-30-2002, 10:00 PM

I like the second one. What were the results of your first cycle?

**jmac** · 08-31-2002, 09:54 AM

I gained 15 lbs on my first, looking back I wish I would alot of things different. At least run 500 mg sust for ten weeks. However I did develop terrible gyno from the low dosage of sust that I did take.

jmac

**jmac** · 09-01-2002, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by jmac
You must be doing the first cycle right? Winny for coming of deca ?
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KeyMastur,
That question was in regardss to what I've read about using Winny to help combat the gyno sides that develop from using Deca. BTW Due to the bad gyno from my first cycle I was considering running arimidex throughout, but you said you're using Nolva, That works better for me since I already have Nolva. Do you have any concerns about reducing gains with that method??

Thanks bro

jmac

**KeyMastur** · 09-01-2002, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by jmac
You must be doing the first cycle right? Winny for coming of deca ?

ok, i was a little confused when you wrote this at first, but thanks for explaining. if you would have said "winny for coming of deca gyno" then i would have known what you meant.

no, i don't have any concerns about losing gains since i'll be using nolva throughout. i don't really even know if i'm prone to gyno, but i don't want to take that chance. plus i think i'm very sensitive to anything, so i know my gains will be great.

**jmac** · 09-01-2002, 02:44 PM

Ok Key,
Sorry about that, on my first post I spelled "of" instead of "off", as you can see I have gone back and edited it. Sometimes I stutter when I type.LOL.

jmac