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11-24-2007, 04:32 AM #1
T3 and clen - best dosing method?
Me and a friend are soon going to run a T3 and Clen stack to help drop some body fat. I've used clen before, once for a straight 4 weeks and then twice at 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, 2 weeks on.
My question is, whats the best way to run these two together for effective loss of b/f?
I'd like to here your experiences of this stack as well?
I'm going to be using these two as part of PCT, my friend will just be using them natural.
Cheers bros!
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11-24-2007, 12:50 PM #2
- For optimal results you'll need to run them both for longer than a scant 4 weeks (Clen safely for several weeks, T3 indefinitely).
- Both are best run consecutively without breaks, or on/off protocol.
- Doses for Clen are tolerance based, w/an optimal range of 120-160mcgs.
- Doses of T3 are typically run between 50-100mcgs, though some go higher varying with experience and needs...but discretion is the key, so be sure to use it.
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11-26-2007, 11:48 AM #3
Thanks for the reply. So what would be a recommended effective dose of T3 for a first timer like me? (5'10'' 182lb). Also, my friend who wants to run the same stack is much bigger than I am - 6'4'' 270lb.
Thanks
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11-26-2007, 11:50 AM #4
Magic hit it on the head bro...there are many threads on cycling of the 2...hit the search button.
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11-26-2007, 05:17 PM #5
Perfectbeast has a nice sticky, check it out
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11-26-2007, 08:01 PM #6
...I don't recommend you use non-prescribed drugs at all.
But my above post documents the ranges people independently use for fat loss purposes. And your thinking here is flawed, in that dosages vary not by means of a person's stature, but rather their condition. Schering clearly indicates this, see “Dosage and Administration”:
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My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).
I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700
Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144
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11-27-2007, 11:53 AM #7
Thanks for the replys guys. I have been searching - I searched before I posted this. I read lots of info but most of it was very conflicting. So I thought I'd post to see if I got a few similar replys from more experienced users.
Basicly, I want to run the clen and T3 as part of PCT after my next cycle to lose b/f and for the clens anti catabolic properties. My friend just wants to run a good stack to help drop lots of b/f.
When I've run clen before I've done a straight 4 weeks and I seemed to drop my weight in the first few weeks. So the other times I've used it I've done the 2 weeks on, two off, two on method. Which resulted in probably similar body fat loss.
So with the clen and T3 I'll do a straight 4 weeks, working the clen upto around 100mcg's ed and I'll run the T3 at 50mcg's ed. I'll inform my friend to run similar doses.
Thanks for your help!
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11-27-2007, 12:48 PM #8
T3 is NOT for post or between cycle use!
The muscle you'll also burn is counter-productive to the overall goal of becoming a fat burning machine, because muscle is a primary fat burner.Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan
My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).
I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700
Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144
BE CAREFUL!
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11-27-2007, 01:41 PM #9
2on 2off is the popular choice but I did t3 @50mg ed 4wks and clen @120mcg (40mcg morning n 80mcg 2hrs after 1st dose 3days 1day off for 4wks
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11-27-2007, 02:00 PM #10
Using Clen and T3 in an on/off regimen is similar to dieting every couple of weeks. Sure it'll work, but the best results come via continuation, or in this analogy a changed eating lifestyle.
But to each his own.Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan
My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).
I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700
Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144
BE CAREFUL!
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11-28-2007, 02:24 AM #11
So is it a no no to run T3 as part of PCT?
If you don't mind could you just show me a good way to run T3 and clen as a stack?
In my case, would I be better off leaving out the T3 and just running 4 weeks of clen during my PCT?
Thanks
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11-28-2007, 04:56 AM #12
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11-28-2007, 11:38 AM #13
Ah! ok, so I can throw 50mcg of T3 ed in to my cycle then to help burn b/f. Right, thanks for that.
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11-28-2007, 12:50 PM #14
As stated above. If you read the profile it will clearly explain why T3 must be run in the presence of aas. It is very efficient, but not picky. It will eat your muscles as a source of energy. JMO. Good luck bud
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11-28-2007, 01:08 PM #15Master Pai Mei of the White Lotus Clan
My motto: SAFETY & RESPECT (for drugs and others).
I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700
Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144
BE CAREFUL!
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11-28-2007, 02:18 PM #16
Hm, you see, I read that T3 was catabolic only at high doses. That was "some" of the info I found when using the search function. If its simply catabolic no matter what dose you use, maybe I'll give it a miss. I take it the growth of muscle whilst using AAS and T3 together out ways the catabolic effect that T3 has so there for makes it worth using for its fat burning properties. Still, I'd prefer to hang onto as much muscle as possible so for that reason I think I'll leave out T3 completely.
I was going to run a sus, eq and winny cycle and use clen as part of PCT. I'd heard about the fat burning properties of T3 and was hoping to include it somewhere in my cycle but not at the reduction in gains of lean mass.
Thanks again guys! much appreciated. See, this is an example of why the search function can be a little dangerous. From what I'd read whilst searching I was just going to use T3 in conjunction with clen during PCT until you guys set me straight.
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02-17-2008, 02:09 PM #17
glad i just read that,its a big help
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02-18-2008, 08:09 PM #18Junior Member
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??? clen and t3
Im 6' and 275lbs im looking to get as low as i can in weight and get my body fat below 9%. Would it be good to start mixing clen and t3 or just take clen first.
Thank you......
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02-18-2008, 08:25 PM #19
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..don't be a d!ck.
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