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    what to take with sustanon?

    I will be taking sustanon 250 for 500mg per week for 12 weeks.. what should i stack with it to keep it lean, or leaner. I was thinking EQ at 500mg per week as well.. any thoughts??

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    age, stats, cycle experience?

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    I saw your stats in the profile. Equipoise would add weel in a clean bulker. Not great gains from it but nice quality. If you want to keep lean have an AI on hand in case you are prone to water retention.

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    What if he ran a little Deca with it? Around 200-300mg week?

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    yeah i only want to gain 10-15pounds over the next 2-3 months, but i dont want to blow up also.. I know sus can blow ya up or stay lean depending on the person.. however i want to stack it with something that can allow me to keep most of what I put on easier, and keep me somewhat lean while on my cycle..

    i have access to deca , I was just wanting to avoid deca d***, and if i add deca from what i read it will make me blow up and pack on serious mass.. it would be nice to add that much mass but I want to stay somewhat lean, and not lose 10pounds while on PCT.

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    just make sure you run the right amount of test when using decca, and always have the right gear and dosage for pct, to keep most of your size when running pct always make sure your diet is in check and are lifting heavy

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    Run your deca for 10 weeks, two less than test, have your PCT in check with proper SERM and AI and keep your hands on an AI too for the duration on the cycle. A clean diet will firstly keep your body lean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadetreeJones View Post
    What if he ran a little Deca with it? Around 200-300mg week?
    At those amounts it should be used for joint lubrication purpose only.
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    so 500mg of sust for 12 weeks
    and 400mg of deca for 10 weeks
    and 500mg of eq for 12 weeks

    with propper PCT afterwards would be a nice lean setup? or more mass bulk? I want mass but i want to keep it somewhat lean.

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    i would up eq to 600mg. wk I personally hate eq but thats my opinion. what is your cycle experience we need to know your history to give you proper info.

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    First cycle? If so stick with the sus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack View Post
    First cycle? If so stick with the sus.
    ^^I agree, but if it's not and you want to stay lean, I would add mast or winstrol with EOD inj of the sus.

    Dont inject the winstrol w/ the sus in the same syringe, but you can with the mast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stock View Post
    ^^I agree, but if it's not and you want to stay lean, I would add mast or winstrol with EOD inj of the sus.

    Dont inject the winstrol w/ the sus in the same syringe, but you can with the mast.
    I put my winnie in with test and tren same syringe, never had a problem.

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    this is my 2nd cycle, but my first one was of cypionate at 200mg a week, it wasnt anything big and i was nervous about it and i only gained maybe 5 pounds.. so in theory im new to this stuff.. I can do Mast and have access to it..

    would you then prefer I do
    500mg of sus per week
    400mg of deca per week
    and 400mg of mas per week
    then do proper PCT afterwards?

    will that keep me fairly lean while still adding some nice muscle?

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    there are many other compounds we could recommend to you for the goals you have in mind but being you are new to aas I wouldn't recommend taking all that. Imo i would do test and winnie so you can harden up but stay basic for now. you don't need much.

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    yeah thats why I asked for advice. guys! test e and winny! any recomendation for a cycle of it for 12 weeks?

    500mg test per week
    50mg winny per day?

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    you got it right. run the winnie the last six wks. You can run it one or two wks past the test. pct have an AI and a Serm. hookers pct works well I use it every time.

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    Sust @ 500mg a week is gona be enough for your second cycle . My second was sust @ 250mgs a week for 12 weeks . Dident gain much weight but it made me ripped and strong as fvck . SUST IS ENOUGH

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    thats fair enough.. I thought sust added water weight? i didnt know it cut you up as well?

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    Its all diet dependent. I tend told hold alot of water on sus. eat how you want to build its that simple. and personally I dont think adding winnie is a problem being your second cycle. My first cycle i took dbol , test, deca . loved every min of it. I didnt need all those compounds but I dont regret it. Since then I have run that same cycle three other times. My point is second cycle add a second compound. You want to add to your experience and winnie is an easy way to do that and help you towards your goals. imo

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    i think so also.. I was thinkin about deca and sus for the 12 weeks and adding winny at week 7 and running it till 14. but it was just an idea i had.

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    Winnie would be a good choice but only if you can find injectable

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdrx7man View Post
    i think so also.. I was thinkin about deca and sus for the 12 weeks and adding winny at week 7 and running it till 14. but it was just an idea i had.
    i love deca but it might put too much water on you for what your trying to accomplish. Im not trying to contradict myself but if you want to use deca do it where you can give it your all eating wise, and gain a shit load of weight. deca works best for all out bulking imo.

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    i understand.. im just not looking for adding too much water and fat.. if i gain more muscle than i orginally quoted wanting, its no big deal.. I just dont want to look bloated

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    go with test and winnie. deca another time.

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    will do! Thanks man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx3 View Post
    I put my winnie in with test and tren same syringe, never had a problem.

    With good, sterile gear you probably wont have any issues, but IMO you shouldnt mix oil based w/ water based compounds in the same injection.

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