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    Sus and Tren Ace cycle?

    I always hear people say to do Tren with Prop, but what about sus? Why is it never recommended? Is it because of the swelling?

    It's cheap and powerful.

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    your good to go with it man, especially bc you can inject eod no prob with both compounds...would be a good cycle..got pct and ai's ready??

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    Quote Originally Posted by VWbug66 View Post
    your good to go with it man, especially bc you can inject eod no prob with both compounds...would be a good cycle..got pct and ai's ready??
    Ohh, I wasn't actually fully planning a cycle with this just yet. I was just thinking about it from a theoretical standpoint and wondering why it wasn't recommended.

    My next cycle is already planned for this summer with test prop and winstrol (made a thread about it a long time ago). I'm just free thinking for a future cycle in about a year or so.

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    bump for more opinions

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    Because you need to inject Tren everyday (not EOD... but this is me)

    You also need to inject Prop everyday (again this is me)

    You'll see faster results..... Tren and Sust was my very 1st cycle though.

    Was UNREAL too... packed on 40+ pounds. Fat and water of course was
    in that mass. I kept about 30 of it.

    Prop and Tren is the way to go. Best cycle there is IMO.


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    test is test. I like to do 6 week runs w/ tren and a long estered test. if you choose prop then after last inject everything will leave your sys asap. I like having the test hang in there.

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    i love sust and tren a.. i just did a cycle of it and had excelelnt results.. only prob was a lil water bloat.. but it was mostly due to my diet im sure and lack of cardio in my last 2 weeks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    I always hear people say to do Tren with Prop, but what about sus? Why is it never recommended? Is it because of the swelling?

    It's cheap and powerful.
    more powerful than any other form of test?

    most people use short esters w/ other short esters because its easier to line up their pct times plus the bloat isnt usually as bad.
    there is nothing written in stone and many many users will use trenA w/ long estered test

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    more powerful than any other form of test?

    most people use short esters w/ other short esters because its easier to line up their pct times plus the bloat isnt usually as bad.
    there is nothing written in stone and many many users will use trenA w/ long estered test
    The stuff I have access to has the following:

    5ml vial of prop at 100mg/ml
    5ml vial of sus at 250mg/ml

    The sus per ml is more potent and also much cheaper from my source. I don't think we are allowed to discuss prices, so I'll just say the following - I could get a couple of sus cycles for the price of one short prop cycle.

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    wow thats wierd because prop is cheaper then sust bottle for bottle with every source i ever known. infact its about half the price or less. of course if the prop is only 100mgs per ml likr usual and your shooting 500mgs a week it will only last you 2 weeks while the same amount of sust will last 5 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    I always hear people say to do Tren with Prop, but what about sus? Why is it never recommended? Is it because of the swelling?

    It's cheap and powerful.
    personally I think SUST and TREN would be awesome combo injected EOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    wow thats wierd because prop is cheaper then sust bottle for bottle with every source i ever known. infact its about half the price or less. of course if the prop is only 100mgs per ml likr usual and your shooting 500mgs a week it will only last you 2 weeks while the same amount of sust will last 5 weeks.
    compare like quantities of hormone. compare 1 gram of sust to 1 gram of prop. that would be 4 shots of sust to 10 shots of prop @ 100mg/ml

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic View Post
    compare like quantities of hormone. compare 1 gram of sust to 1 gram of prop. that would be 4 shots of sust to 10 shots of prop @ 100mg/ml
    actually a gram of prop is greater than a gram of sust (4 blend ester) since the prop ester is smaller thus leaving more room for the actual hormone in the molecule.
    if ur speaking in concentrations then YES sust would be MORE CONCENTRATED but its still test vs test

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    Well, my first cycle was a sus only cycle and I LOVED it.

    My next cycle planned is a prop + winstrol cutting cycle and I'll see how I feel with those compounds compared to my first cycle.

    I don't mind spending the extra money for prop instead of sus if it will make that big of a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    Well, my first cycle was a sus only cycle and I LOVED it.

    My next cycle planned is a prop + winstrol cutting cycle and I'll see how I feel with those compounds compared to my first cycle.

    I don't mind spending the extra money for prop instead of sus if it will make that big of a difference.
    prop shouldnt cost you "extra money"... so i'd say something is awry

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    prop shouldnt cost you "extra money"... so i'd say something is awry
    I know, but the prices are what they are. My source charges more for prop then sus.

    Sus it dirt cheap and I mean dirt cheap from my source.

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    make sure you run some caber with that tren or your dong will be useless

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    I don't have access to caber from my source and I have no idea where to get it.

    I guess I'll out of action for a couple of weeks and I'm ok with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    I don't have access to caber from my source and I have no idea where to get it.

    I guess I'll out of action for a couple of weeks and I'm ok with that.
    i n o v a t e d -research.net

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    Wow, thanks Rotary, site doesn't work, but I think I got the right URL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    actually a gram of prop is greater than a gram of sust (4 blend ester) since the prop ester is smaller thus leaving more room for the actual hormone in the molecule.
    if ur speaking in concentrations then YES sust would be MORE CONCENTRATED but its still test vs test
    no I want to compare the price of one test vs. the price of another. as far as how much actuall test is in the gram doesn't mean as much as how it adds up. as an example, enanthate is heavier than prop which means 1 gram of test e will have less test then one gram of test p. but you would have more actuall hormone in your sys if you run 1 gram of test e per week then 1 gram of test p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    I don't have access to caber from my source and I have no idea where to get it.

    I guess I'll out of action for a couple of weeks and I'm ok with that.
    if not caber, then try to find some Proviron .

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