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    What is the best estrogen blocker?

    Or testosterone booster (I think they are basically the same thing)

    Ive had people tell me that T Bomb II's are the best but I would like to hear what you all think

    ETA: I ask this b/c Im about to start a 5 week cycle of Test w/Dbol but Im not for sure on the Dbol.
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    Estrogen blocker and Test booster are not the same thing.

    An estrogen blocker blocks estrogen.. A Test booster boosts test.

    Whats ya age, stats, cycle and lifting experience?

    And lay out ya proposed cycle with injection frequency, compounds, and PCT.

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    No offense bro but it sounds like you need to do some research before you hit the sauce. Thinking a test booster and estrogen blocker are the same is a pretty big stop sign if you ask me.

    Gain some more knowledge, seriously. You don't want to have your next blood work results put you in shock.

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    aaahhhhh,I remember when i was 16......

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Estrogen blocker and Test booster are not the same thing.

    An estrogen blocker blocks estrogen.. A Test booster boosts test.

    Whats ya age, stats, cycle and lifting experience?

    And lay out ya proposed cycle with injection frequency, compounds, and PCT.
    +1..

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    arimidex falls under both antiaromatase & test booster

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    I know that a test booster isnt the exact same thing as an estrogen blocker but every estrogen blocker I look up says testosterone booster so I assumed I could get the same results out of a test booster (to stop aromatase) as I would an estrogen blocker
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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Estrogen blocker and Test booster are not the same thing.

    An estrogen blocker blocks estrogen.. A Test booster boosts test.

    Whats ya age, stats, cycle and lifting experience?

    And lay out ya proposed cycle with injection frequency, compounds, and PCT.
    Im 18 and Im going into my senior season of high school football and I have a chance of earning a scholarship to a major university.

    My stats are:
    Im 6'2 210 (would like to be around 225 but not to worried b/c if I earn a scholarship I will have a redshirt year to gain alot of weight)
    Bench- 295 (would like it to be 350+)
    Squat- 480 (would like to top 530)
    Power Clean- 325 (Im not too worried about improving this but I would like it to be closer to 350)

    Ive been lifting weights for 6 years.

    My proposed cycle is: One shot of Test each week I have 5cc's so I will gradually increase my dosage from the first shot and I will peak at my third shot then gradually come down from it. (Any advice involving the test would be greatly appreciated should I inject the way I just said or should I just do 1cc per week straight up)

    If I stack with Dbol I will take 25mg p/day taking 12.5 in the mornings and at night.
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    5cc's of Test is not a cycle...by the time you feel the Test I`m guessing enthanate the cycle will be done.

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    So should I just do 10cc's for 10 weeks instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    So should I just do 10cc's for 10 weeks instead?


    at 18 you shouldnt do any cc's...wait untill youre 22 1/2 at the very LEAST!

    you can really mess your body up...u can mess it up for life..you have alot of natural test and natural growing left in you...

    also T-Bomb II is an over the counter pct you can get at a workout store...DO NOT LISTEN TO WHOEVER IS TELLING YOU THAT CRAP!

    Trust me little bro..just wait and when youre older you will be glad you did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilio_Rebenga View Post
    at 18 you shouldnt do any cc's...wait untill youre 22 1/2 at the very LEAST!

    you can really mess your body up...u can mess it up for life..you have alot of natural test and natural growing left in you...

    also T-Bomb II is an over the counter pct you can get at a workout store...DO NOT LISTEN TO WHOEVER IS TELLING YOU THAT CRAP!

    Trust me little bro..just wait and when youre older you will be glad you did
    Good advice there Emilio.

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    Thanks for the advice man but what do you suggest I use if I dont use the Test. Dbol ? Tren ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    Good advice there Emilio.
    i learned it from you brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilio_Rebenga View Post
    at 18 you shouldnt do any cc's...wait untill youre 22 1/2 at the very LEAST!

    you can really mess your body up...u can mess it up for life..you have alot of natural test and natural growing left in you...

    also T-Bomb II is an over the counter pct you can get at a workout store...DO NOT LISTEN TO WHOEVER IS TELLING YOU THAT CRAP!

    Trust me little bro..just wait and when youre older you will be glad you did
    I second that

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Thanks for the advice man but what do you suggest I use if I dont use the Test. Dbol? Tren?
    I think you should learn to read what ppl are telling you. Do not screw up your life too get the scholarship. All these people here have a concern about your well being.

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    Could someone please answer my original question of: What is the most effective estrogen blocker?

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    You're going to find a lot of people are really going to be reluctant to help you at this point, but not so much as we're a bunch of jerks here, but more you're far too young for juice. Believe it or not, we're trying to help you by more or less ignoring you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Or testosterone booster (I think they are basically the same thing)

    Ive had people tell me that T Bomb II's are the best but I would like to hear what you all think

    ETA: I ask this b/c Im about to start a 5 week cycle of Test w/Dbol but Im not for sure on the Dbol.
    your looking for something to increase TESTOSTERONE or suppress ESTROGEN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Could someone please answer my original question of: What is the most effective estrogen blocker?
    letro

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    Quote Originally Posted by **** View Post
    your looking for something to increase TESTOSTERONE or suppress ESTROGEN?
    Im looking to suppress the Estrogen IF and thats a big IF I decide to use the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaulz View Post
    You're going to find a lot of people are really going to be reluctant to help you at this point, but not so much as we're a bunch of jerks here, but more you're far too young for juice. Believe it or not, we're trying to help you by more or less ignoring you.

    Thanks man I thought thats why nobody has answered me but Im only looking into it Im not 100% sure yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex57 View Post
    letro
    Is that an abbreviation for something? b/c I cant find anything on Letro on the web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Is that an abbreviation for something? b/c I cant find anything on Letro on the web.
    just click on the blue word letro in your last post ....you will be able to go from there.

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    these stupis asses make me feel smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbuffguy View Post
    these stupis asses make me feel smart
    That was helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Thanks man I thought thats why nobody has answered me but Im only looking into it Im not 100% sure yet
    I know your perspective right now will make it difficult to understand what people are telling you. But trust us, there are much much more important things. Take care of your health now, as things can come back to bite you.

    I would head over to the diet and training forums...There are many people that play ball and would be willing to help you out.

    Just my 2cc's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Thanks for the advice man but what do you suggest I use if I dont use the Test. Dbol? Tren?
    food and creatine..

    your body already makes more test than you can inject even with 10cc

    by the way, on the bottle it will say something like 250mg/ml that = to 250mg of test per cc..

    get it??

    anyay, at the end of 5 or 10 weeks your testicles will be much smaller, your growth plates will have closed prematurely, and you will possibly have begun to develop man boobs..

    so yes, creatine, enough protein per day and lots of rest 9-10 hrs per day..

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    flgAtor and spywizard

    Thanks for the advice.

    I will not be using Test or Dbol at this point in my athletic career and I will just have to work even harder in the weight room to achieve my goals and recieve my scholly to a one of the SEC schools recruiting me.

    BTW: I had been wondering what the equivalent to one cc was. thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    flgAtor and spywizard

    Thanks for the advice.

    I will not be using Test or Dbol at this point in my athletic career and I will just have to work even harder in the weight room to achieve my goals and recieve my scholly to a one of the SEC schools recruiting me.

    BTW: I had been wondering what the equivalent to one cc was. thanks again
    1cc= 1ml

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    Nothing blocks estrogen like letro it nearly cancels it out all together. I love the stuff.

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    im 6'6 230 and almost 21 years old, im also getting a scholarship to play ball
    i was wondering if im also to young to do a cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmC View Post
    im 6'6 230 and almost 21 years old, im also getting a scholarship to play ball
    i was wondering if im also to young to do a cycle
    perhaps you should start your own thread

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    If I wanted to obliterate estrogen, I'd use Letro (or Aromasin ) a SERM and DHT derivative. But you'de be in danger of encountering sides associated with a very low estrogen levels.

    To raise T an AI or SERM can be used. Also Fadogia Agrestis Stem Extract and some nettle root, trib, to raise free T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Im 18 and Im going into my senior season of high school football and I have a chance of earning a scholarship to a major university.

    My stats are:
    Im 6'2 210 (would like to be around 225 but not to worried b/c if I earn a scholarship I will have a redshirt year to gain alot of weight)
    Bench- 295 (would like it to be 350+)
    Squat- 480 (would like to top 530)
    Power Clean- 325 (Im not too worried about improving this but I would like it to be closer to 350)

    Ive been lifting weights for 6 years.

    My proposed cycle is: One shot of Test each week I have 5cc's so I will gradually increase my dosage from the first shot and I will peak at my third shot then gradually come down from it. (Any advice involving the test would be greatly appreciated should I inject the way I just said or should I just do 1cc per week straight up)

    If I stack with Dbol I will take 25mg p/day taking 12.5 in the mornings and at night.

    What schools are you looking at?

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    That's ashame that you're using gear at 18. You're doing well without it's use. Your long term gains will be less - that's a fact. You'll shoot your eye out kid!


    Quote Originally Posted by futurestar67 View Post
    Im 18 and Im going into my senior season of high school football and I have a chance of earning a scholarship to a major university.

    My stats are:
    Im 6'2 210 (would like to be around 225 but not to worried b/c if I earn a scholarship I will have a redshirt year to gain alot of weight)
    Bench- 295 (would like it to be 350+)
    Squat- 480 (would like to top 530)
    Power Clean- 325 (Im not too worried about improving this but I would like it to be closer to 350)

    Ive been lifting weights for 6 years.

    My proposed cycle is: One shot of Test each week I have 5cc's so I will gradually increase my dosage from the first shot and I will peak at my third shot then gradually come down from it. (Any advice involving the test would be greatly appreciated should I inject the way I just said or should I just do 1cc per week straight up)

    If I stack with Dbol I will take 25mg p/day taking 12.5 in the mornings and at night.

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    I decided to not use the juice as I would like to still grow some more.

    And the schools that I have offers from are Tulane, Alabama, Georgia, ULM, and La Tech.

    Im hoping for an offer from LSU or Texas

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