Which steroids cause hair-loss and which ones dont?
I know some cause hairloss more and some stimulate hairloss less... but which chemical causes it the least? What can be done to prevent it with those steroids?
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Which steroids cause hair-loss and which ones dont?
I know some cause hairloss more and some stimulate hairloss less... but which chemical causes it the least? What can be done to prevent it with those steroids?
the search button is gtd not to cause hair-loss
If you are likely to suffer MPB (look at males on mothers side of the family) then stay away from the strong androgens.
lmao......Quote:
Originally Posted by Kratos
how about Equipose or primobolan?
BAD-
test.without.finasteride
tren
winstrol
dianabol
anadrol
masteron
proviron
primobolan
OK-
test.with.finasteride
turanabol
anavar
equipoise/boldenone
deca
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Originally Posted by jg42058p
I have found tbol to be the safest for my hair. dbol, test, tren, and winny were the worst. I run one cheical at a time so its easy to tell where each side effect comes from.
When it comes to hair loss avoid all DHTs which include winny, masteron, var, ect. In addition testosterone and many other derivatives will convert to DHT via the enzyme 5-alpha-reductase, this converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in peripheral tissues. When taking test, et al use a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor like finasteride(Proscar, Propecia) or dutasteride. These compounds are also used to mask steroid use in drug test since most test look for the metabolites.
Hope this helps!
if your prone to mbp then aas will speed up the process so weigh up your options. hair or gear?
i thought var was considered one of the safer onesQuote:
Originally Posted by kfrost06
I personally don't suffer from mpb so it has no effect on me but it is a DHT and DHT is the reason people with mpb lose their hair. I am sure some DHTs are worse then others but even proviron will cause you to shed hair if you have mpb. Which ones are worse, best to ask someone that found out the hard way.Quote:
Originally Posted by zartan
if you shed some hair during a cycle, is it gone forever or does it regrow when you are off cycle?
lol kratosQuote:
Originally Posted by Kratos
As for hairloss and AAS, according to my 296 dollar endo book (i hate college), There is a lot of research suggesting that hair loss can be caused by any steroid, but most people grow all hair lost back once AAS are stopped. Those That are prone to MPB are going to see more loss and less gains.
no it won't grow back... dht attacks the receptors at the scalp they will cause the hair to thin and some may even fall out. They may also not grow back.
look out for dht based juice like..primobolan, anavar, winny, masteron, proviron..
others like Anadrol, dball, test can also speed up hairloss in prone individuals.
Remember some people are more prone to hairloss than others..it really comes
down to genetics.
You forgot anadrol on "dht based juice" :)
the best and strongest steroids cause the most hair loss basically. so you have to decide for yourself if it is worth it.
ok, obviously some steroids are worse on the hair line than others - but I'm just curious as to which ones aren't so bad and which ones are bad...
and obviously stuff like winny is going to be bad on the scalp
I guess I'll take some proscar/finasteride or atleast keep it on hand if I see my hair start to thin.
How about equipose - or primobolan - can hairloss be avoided by using finasteride?
answered!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sitries
bump
Any theories on just how much the hair loss process is sped up in those genitally prone to MPB? For examples are you likely to go bald 5 years earlier than you would have naturally of 15 years ect. I realise that its probably different for everybody so but a general approximation would be great.
the stronger androgens are usually the culprit.Quote:
Originally Posted by LATS60
If you take finasteride, you must know that it will have a negative effect on your strength and speed. You will not be able to lift as much weight as you would if you don't take it. DHT is very important for neural drive and thus strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by jg42058p
True, but interestingly I have heard people claim that on a low dose (say .5mg per day) hair loss is still prevented but detrimental effects on training and libido are negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyByU
I believe my hair is thinning from my steroid use but am trying to grt but just using Nizoral and Rogaine (im only 22).
FlyByU do you know if its easy to get prescribed finasteride here in Australia?
Yeah, it's dead easy to get finasteride prescribed here mate but i wouldn't recommend it. A lot of guys have suffered permanently lowered libidos and have had ongoing problems with elevated estrogen. DHT is the body's natural aromatase inhibitor. Finasteride lowers DHT too much even on a low dose, so i don't think it's worth it. Stick to the Nizoral 2% and maybe use a natural topical DHT inhibitor. Go to sites like hairlosshelp and read the threads on the topical products.Quote:
Originally Posted by mick86
There is a forum somewhere, i think on yahoo for people who have suffered long term side effects from finasteride. There are way more people with problems from taking it than pfizer makes out. In my opinion, it's not worth it. I would get a hair transplant over taking finasteride any day! Fortunately i don't need either.
Go to propeciasideeffects.com to read up on the sides. Also read the posts on the forum there. I think there are a few other forums around dedicated to finasteride's long term sides as well.
I will tell you this for free - avoid Drol and Winny at all costs, they are absolutely deadly, dbol isnt too great either. At the end of the day, it comes down to whether you are predisposed and to what extent, if you are not, you can take shedloads of everything under the sun and never have a problem, whereas if you are seriously predisposed you could jump on var at 50mg a week and have serious problems.
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Originally Posted by FlyByU
Interesting thanks, I'm checking those sites out nowQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyByU
not really sure but masterone seems to cause hair loss according the profile of this drug.
masterone is dht based if i remember correct.
it really comes down to genetics..even without juice those prone may lose
hair...eg..if someone will lose hair regardless of juice...say in 6 months..the
juice will speed it up to three.
if you lose hair on juice it pretty much means you would have lost it anyway sooner
or later.
anyway short is in... save up for a hair transplant if anything.
Yeah, it all comes down to genetics. I've known fellas who have taken sh*tloads of compounds known to cause the most hair loss and never lost any hair, while others have lost hair on a low dose of mildly androgenic compounds. If you are prone to hair loss you're gonna lose it no matter if you take roids or not.
masteron is probably the worst on the hair besides straight dht or methyl dht.Quote:
Originally Posted by J431S
Also i know when im using 2 dht's i thin out, but after im off it gets just as thick as it was.
Awesome, good to hear I was starting to trip.. fewww,Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyByU
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Originally Posted by FlyByU
it bugs me when people who don't have any experience with a drug give advice on it. I use a low dose propecia and it works great for keeping my hair and no side effect's. Those guys you read on forums who have problems use high dose and didn't stop after 10 years of use. And I don't have any problem's with strength and my estrogen is in check verified by blood tests.
OP someone listed the drugs that adversely affect your hairline if prone to hairloss and I concur with that list.
This thread is over 4 years old. No need to bump this stuff.
have the MPB gene and numerous ababolics cause me to shed yet I find that MDHT does not seem to affect my hair at all. I have quite a few friends who are in the same position as me.Quote:
Originally Posted by james21
I regularly take over 100mg per day (sometimes as much as 200mg) without issue.
I take MDHT while dieting and also use it on cycle to replace the DHT which I inhibit through taking finasteride. The idea behind this is to help ward of estrogen related side effects (i.e gyno) which can arise from using finasteride while on cycle. It's also great as a pre workout supplement.
DO NOT take finasteride if you're thinking about cycling with decaQuote:
Originally Posted by sitries
I’ve seen many people say this but fail to find any decent reseach behind it, I also fail to find any users supporting it. From what I’ve found it is all based on an old report from 2001 and discussions around it at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelsea Grin
The theory is that finateride will convert deca to DHT in stead of the less harmful DHN. But from what I can see either the research behind it is very simple or the report is overly simplified.
First of all, if you use Deca you will most likely use Testo as well as Deca stops your natural testosterone production. Finasteride will have positive effects on the testo part of your cycle.
Secondly, the half life of Deca is 15 days while half life of finasteride is 6 hours in adults. The recommended dosage of finasteride is 1mg five days a week, while for practical reasons most people take 1.25mg as the cheap pills come in 5mg and you split it in four. Research also show very limited difference in taking 0.2mg a day and 1mg.
So what I fail to understand is how this limited amount of finasteride with it’s very short half life makes such drastical changes and making Deca from one of the mildest to really horrible for your hair. Is it just a parrot that has been repeating the story for so long that people believe in it or is it truly bad? I struggle with believing in it to be honest.
Personally I’m prone MPB and seven weeks into
Dbol 30mg/day week 1-4
Deca 300mg/week 1-10
Testo E 500mg/week 1-12
I’ve been taking finasteride for years at 1.25mg/ 5 days a week, but reduced it a bit during my cycle. I did experience some shedding during the last week of Dbol, but after that I haven’t experienced any hair related side effects. I will probably stop with finasteride for two weeks while the deca concentration in my body is on top but except for that I plan on staying on it. The reason for this is that you can stop for shorter periods while on finasteride but yo shouldn’t stop for longer periods while you are on it.
Please enlighten me as to how staying on finasteride is so horrible but base it on own experiences or at least not the ONE report that is floating around the net. It’s now been talked about for 11 years. if it is truly that bad we should have hundreds of people that could confirm how bad it is, as we do with winny/dbol and mast.