Overall best oral?

**bigteez66** · 10-23-2002, 10:24 AM

I am a newbie and was wondering what is the best oral AS for strength and mass. Also are there any orals for cutting BF? THanks yall

**T$sMechamT/A** · 10-23-2002, 10:29 AM

bro stick around for a while... you are asking the wrong question. you need to find out a little more info and then maybe do some AAS. what are yoru stats? btw yes there are AAS for cutting, strength and mass.

**partyboynyc** · 10-23-2002, 10:31 AM

i've had alot of good oral.no one stands out in my mind as the best. do rim jobs count??oh wait!!shit, i totally read this post wrong

**palme** · 10-23-2002, 10:32 AM

PB

**bigteez66** · 10-23-2002, 10:36 AM

HAHA funny guys, I am 5'11" about 195 lbs. I am 19, I bench around 320 and squat about 400 or so. I just started eating right and bodybuilding. In highschool all we would do is bench,squat,deadlift,cleans. It got me strong but thats it. I went from 235 to 195 solid in about 6 months. I am just looking to get bigger and leaner. I don't want to inject, it makes me feel like it really is that bad. If I could just pop something 4-5 times a day that would be better on my mind. Make since? Thanks yall

**Braski** · 10-23-2002, 10:53 AM

Dude,

You probably heard this before but your Test levels at age 19 are peaking...take advantage of that and keep training. If you take synthetic substances you stand the chance of throwing off your natural potential. Your stats are pretty impressive. 320 bench/400 pound squat at 195 and 19 not too bad. Keep it au natural for the next two years. By the way it sounds like you are on a power program. I would try a bodybuilding routine to maximize your size potential. Big weights build big muscles but results from a power routine differ from those on a true bodybuilding routine. I would recommend that you save your money and invest in a training/diet consultation with Swolecat or someone else that knows how to train for Bodybuilding.

Good luck

Braski

**trimunex** · 10-23-2002, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by partyboynyc
i've had alot of good oral.no one stands out in my mind as the best. do rim jobs count??oh wait!!shit, i totally read this post wrong

Before I even opened this thread up, I knew partyboy would have a post like this in there! lmao

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**bigteez66** · 10-23-2002, 11:02 AM

ok, thanks thats all I needed to hear. I have been on a bodybuilding diet and plan for the past 3 weeks. In 3 weeks time I have lost body fat, and yesterday at the gym I noticed stretch marks under my arm in the crease of my pec and pit. The only stretch marks I use to be able to get were the ones from fat! I have been taking protein everyday for 3 weeks and creatine, glutamine, and just started andro poppers 100. So thanks everyone owe yeah any info on the effectiveness of the Pinnacle andro poppers? I work at GNC so I want to take advantage of it! Thanks yall

**still growin** · 10-23-2002, 02:20 PM

Needles are worse than pills. That seems to be a big misconception to many people. Some pills like anavar are very mild, some like d-bol and anadrol are VERY harsh on the body. I think most pills are actually worse for you than shots. I started out thinking the same thing a few years back. Do some research on the drug profile page off the homepage, it might change your mind bro.

**iron4life79** · 10-23-2002, 04:51 PM

the only oral i know of that dosent take a second pass through the liver is primo tabs.
im pretty sure all the rest do.
dbol , anadrol , and winny are very harsh on your body bro. injecting is much easier on you all the way around. your call though........

peace bb79

**latman49** · 10-23-2002, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by bigteez66
I don't want to inject, it makes me feel like it really is that bad. If I could just pop something 4-5 times a day that would be better on my mind. Make since? Thanks yall

Orals may be easier on your mind, but they're harder on your body(although many here feel that toxicity from orals is exaggerated). Your organs may thank you for using injectibles.

**jeffylyte** · 10-24-2002, 10:20 AM

lets put this all in perspective. what would kill you taking 10 dbol or 10 viagra. The viagra of course. Orals (and AAS in general) have this misconception that they are like arsenic or something. They actually have quite high LD50's (dose to kill 50% of a control population). Acute toxicity is not the issue, but chronic toxicity. But this is a problem with any hormone that is abused. The moderate dose short cycles of orals that is common now, it not much of a problem as the liver is the only organ effiecient at reparing itself. For ex. if you recieve a donated liver, you actually only get half of one, it then regrows over time.

**arthurb999** · 10-24-2002, 10:50 AM

I would work on your diet. Could you give me an example of your typical days diet.

Also, I would look into:

Whey Protien
Glutamine
Greatine
Multivitamin

**bigteez66** · 10-24-2002, 11:17 AM

On a normal day I will make a Met rx shake with skim milk with ephedrine free xenadrine
55g protein
Maybe a small snack in between a balance bar if I have if not something light
At about 2:00 I work out after wards I have another met rx shake with 5g creatine and 5g glutamine, 55g protein

more xenadrine
At work (GNC) I will maybe get a bar or a shake in.

Then for dinner I will eat what ever, try to be high in protein and its usually not light. So basically I work out 4 days a week and my diet kinda sucks I don't think I eat enough but its hard to on the xenadrine. Hope that helps, owe yeah I have only been doing that for 3 weeks and I see big improvements. Thanks again.