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    Chris75 is offline New Member
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    injection, how many ml in one shot?

    Hello,

    I have two questions on injecting,


    1. Can I inject 1 ml sustanon (250mg) and 2 ml deca (200mg) using one syringe? Or is 3 ml too much ?


    2. Can I use one needle to draw the liquid from both ampules?



    Thank you

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    Hey bro, where are u injecting? 3cc's is ok for glute and quads. Wouldnt do 3cc's anywhere else unles u have before. You can use one pin to draw both, but then id change the pin to inject.

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    yeah chris, its ok to mix those two. also a 3cc injection is ok only in the glute like og said. and I'd use one pin to draw both and then use another to stick as drawing will dull the needle. i draw and shoot with the same but only because I draw from one bottle. next week when i start the equi Ill probably switch.

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    There are a few steps you should always take when first learning to inject anabolic steroids . The most important thing to keep in mind is that you must always be clean and very sanitary. Always use new syringes that are in sealed packaging. Never use a syringe that has been used before, either by you or especially by another person. Make sure that the area that you will be injecting is clean and is in the correct location (read injection sites) to prevent injury. Take your new syringe out of its packaging and if there is a protective covering on the needle turn it tight to insure that the needle is firmly secured to the syringe. With an alcohol filled cotton swab wipe the top of your bottle (if you are withdrawing from one) to insure it is sterile. Take the plastic sheath off the needle and draw about 2cc of air into the syringe. Insert the syringe and push the air into the bottle. This makes it easier to withdraw the oil based liquid. Turn your bottle upside-down and withdraw the amount that you want plus just a little extra. Now, flick the side of the syringe to get all of the air bubbles to the top and inject the extra amount you took back into the bottle. Withdraw the syringe and pull back about 1/4cc of air and then remove the needle. From a new syringe take the needle off of it and place it on the syringe that you have your liquid in. This will give you a new, undulled needle. Inserting it through the top of your bottle will have dulled your previous needle. With another alcohol filled cotton swab wipe the injection site. Unsheathe your tightened needle making sure not to touch it to anything (this will unsterilize your needle and can cause severe problems with infection). Hold your syringe upright and push in the stopper slowly until all of the air in the syringe has been forced out. If some liquid trickles down the needle that is O.K., do not touch or wipe it. That will help in lubricating the injection site. Now, hold the syringe like a dart and at a 90-degree angle insert the clean new needle deep into the muscle. Once the needle is all the way into the muscle, pull back on the plunger to check if blood enters the syringe. If this happens it means that you have entered a blood vessel and that you need to withdraw and try again. Withdraw the needle from the buttocks and push the blood out of the syringe. Then replace the tip to ensure that the blood is not hidden in the tip of the needle. If there is not blood present, press the stopper in slowly (to prevent soreness) until all of the liquid has been injected. Lastly, remove the needle quickly and with another cotton swab apply pressure and gently massage the injection site (this will help with bleeding and also eliminate some discomfort in the following days). Try not to inject more than 2 cc's at one time and no more than twice a week in the same injection site. Place the plastic sheathe back on the needle and discard the entire syringe. Try not to inject more than 2 cc's at one time and no more than twice a week in the same injection site. Remember: DO NOT USE SYRINGE OR NEEDLE AGAIN

    WHERE TO INJECT

    Anabolic steroids , both oil and water based need to be injected intramuscularly (deep into muscle tissue). The most common place for intramuscular injections are in the buttocks, outer side of the thigh, and in the deltoid region of the arm. These muscles are preferred by many because of their thickness. These sites have a large number of muscle fibers and extensive fascia. Fascia is a type of connective tissue that surrounds and separates muscles. Because of this, the steroid or liquid being injected has a large surface area and a vast blood supply, which is better for absorption. When injecting, the goal is to go deep into the muscle tissue WITHOUT hitting major nerves and blood vessels. The best site for injecting is in the gluteus medius located in the upper outer area of the buttocks (see picture). The upper outer area is elected because the muscle in this area is very thick and has only a few nerves. In this area it is not likely that you will hit a blood vessel and the chances of injury to the sciatic nerve. This nerve runs through the lower and middle area of the buttock. If this nerve is hit, you may be temporarily paralyzed and it is very painful. You will want to stay as far away from the sciatic nerve as possible.


    CHOOSING PROPER SYRINGE

    Choosing the proper syringe is very important. First, you will want a syringe that will hold the desired amount of liquid. The liquid is measured in cc's. Second, you need to have needles that will penetrate deep enough into the muscle for optimum absorption. And lastly, you will need a syringe that is wide enough to deliver the fluid, but also thin enough not to hurt. The thickness of the needles is measured in gauges. An 18" gauge is much larger than a 22" or 23" gauge. Obviously the lower the gauge the wider the needle. There are many different sizes of syringe. You will find that some hold more fluid than others do and as mentioned some you will find are bigger and longer. The most favored size would be a 22" gauge with a 1.5" length (this is the most common for injections administered into the buttocks). 1" needles are usually preferred when going into the thigh or deltoid. If you are confused about this, call a pharmacist and ask them to help. In most cases they will.

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    Just a pointer - because of the propionate in it i've found that injecting sustenon every-other-day (EOD) is best. Right now i'm injecting half a vial EOD. I suck up half a cc into one pin and cap it and put it in the fridge - I suck up the other half a cc into another pin and stick it. Just the half cc. The concentrated juice is absored better. I then would use the same pin to suck up the deca and stick it. I'd be sticking 100mg of deca and half a vial of sustenon EOD. That works out to be 350mg/wk of deca and 437.5mg/wk of sustenon. Banging it EOD keeps the blood levels more even. Some people (probably most people) think this is a stupid idea. I'm just pointing out that i've personally found that the juice works better for me if I split it up into more frequent smaller injections especially the sustenon.

    I suck the juice into the pin from the sustenon vials without touching the bottom of the vial. To get the last bit I lean the vial almost onto it's side and with the beveled edge of the pin down I suck the juice out of the bottom-side of the vial. It doesn't dull the pin at all. After a few times it's like tieing my shoes. Easy. The only problem with sticking a dull pin is it hurts more.

    The benefit of mixing the deca and sustenon into the same stick is it reduces the pain of the sustenon injection. But after a few you get used to it. Sustenon injections don't hurt on me anymore.

    3 cc in one stick is pushing it. I would stick the sustenon and then the deca and i'd use the same pin and then throw it away. But that's me. Of course like I said above in true actuality i'd be sticking half-vials twice as often too.

    I prefer the 23 guage 3cc 1.5 inch pins. 23 is big enough to suck up any juice i've ever ran across.

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    Guys,

    I have just discoverd that I have 2cc 23g *1'' . So I will not be able to draw them both anyways. I think I will just shoot the sustanon in my left quad and the deca in my right.


    One more question, if the needle is 1'' long, should I stick 3/4 in my quad, 4/5, or the whole inch?

    Thanks

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    Just did a 3cc's delt injection 5 mins ago and it went smooth as butter

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    Stick the entire 1 inch. Get 23 guage 1.5 inch 3cc pins!

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