Guys i really really need help

***the original jason*** · 11-07-2002, 09:59 PM

i think insurance companies may call this self induced, I have no idea, but I dont think there is a dhn blocker?? also what possibly happened is if you are prone to fina(dhn) hairloss then the dhn kills the hair follicles already the ones that are falling are already dead, considering fina is 6 weeks out of your sytem.

peace

**Mikeygas14** · 11-07-2002, 11:14 PM

so you think this will stop on its own or what type of action will i have to take?

**BIGB** · 11-07-2002, 11:38 PM

man this is just fucked up mikey your thinkin is just twisted get your fuckin ass in a doctor's office show him what is wrong and if he doesn't know ask if he would know of a doc who knows more get refered to another and quit pissin around and wasting everyones time on here you ask the same questions and say the same dumb things maybe i should take some clen , test, eq next time. How about jam that up your ass take some protein creatine and glutamine and be happy period. OH ya i think your just one of those guys that like to get a rise out of ppl.
L8r

**celly510** · 11-07-2002, 11:48 PM

i was having some of the same problems you are having mikey. the doctor says your gonna be ok. so you gonna be ok. when i finished my cycle i had sore nipples, my hair was falling out and i couldnt bust a nut if my life depended on it. i started to freak out. well a mounth later and im at 100% again. my little man is 100% and my hair is staying put. now that you got all your medication organized just kick back. calm down. your gonna give yourself a heart attack worrying about this shit. youve already done what your suposed to do.

**Mikeygas14** · 11-08-2002, 10:17 AM

was your stuff due to fina? and did u take bromo for your nips, i can;t find anything nobody knows about stopping fina hairloss and its pouring out on my pillow and every thing its horrible

**Carlos_E** · 11-08-2002, 10:21 AM

Shave your head and go see a doctor.

**Mikeygas14** · 11-08-2002, 01:26 PM

Does anybody know the proper dosage and how long i shoudl take the bromo for im ordering it online tonight???? and im not shaving my freaking head, and i did go to a doctor already .......

**Carlos_E** · 11-08-2002, 01:32 PM

Did you ask your doctor for a referral to see an endocrinologist?

**Mikeygas14** · 11-08-2002, 01:38 PM

i aksed if i shoudl go to one when i made my app. and he said that , i twas urology , is endocrinolist would he deal with the hairloss and the nips?

**ripsid** · 11-08-2002, 02:19 PM

Mikey, dude, I wouldn't take anything else on my own if I were you! You took the fina and shit on your own and now look. If you're having that much trouble go somewhere else. I don't know man, you need to go see someone else. You went to a eurologist and got proscar? That's like going to the barber to get your toe nails manicured. Dude, bro...not to break your balls, but you need help in more ways than one. I'm saying this because I care dude, you need to go see the right people! GO! You know what and if your rents find out big deal! What would they rather have a healthy son that made a decision that maybe he should have thought out a little more or a son that's all f'd up from doing gear and sickley as hell, with a wig? Go see someone that knows bro!

**Carlos_E** · 11-08-2002, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Mikeygas14
i aksed if i shoudl go to one when i made my app. and he said that , i twas urology , is endocrinolist would he deal with the hairloss and the nips?

An endocrinologist deals with your endocrine system. (Hormones). And the multiple problems you're having (hair loss, lactating nips, gyno, water cum) could be due to your hormone levels being out of wack. You shouldn't see a specialist for each individual problem. It needs to be addressed as a whole. Did you tell the doctor that referred you to an urologist that you used AS?

**Mikeygas14** · 11-08-2002, 03:11 PM

yeah i told him.....i guess next week when i go back to the urologist then if he doesn;t knwo whats up i will ask him if i can go to an endocrinologist, but this hair this is out of control i though taking bromo while i wait for my bloood tests would be a good thing

**trimunex** · 11-08-2002, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Mikeygas14
yeah i told him.....i guess next week when i go back to the urologist then if he doesn;t knwo whats up i will ask him if i can go to an endocrinologist, but this hair this is out of control i though taking bromo while i wait for my bloood tests would be a good thing

If this is as bad as you've been saying for the last 500 posts, then you won't wait 'til next week for your appt. with a Urologist. You need to either call an Endocrinologist immediately and tell them the whole problem over the phone so they can give you the next step, OR go straight to the ER where they'll refer you to the correct specialist faster than a whore getting picked up on 8th Ave.

Bro, like I said before .. something here just doesn't seem to add up. If things are as bad as you say, then you would have taken the good advice from the decent Bro's of this board and wouldn't keep pussy-footing around like you have for the past few days. Honestly I'm not trying to flame you here, it's just that you haven't seemed to listen to much of what has been suggested .. And on top of that, at somepoint you actually referred to doing another cycle (most people having the reactions you've had wouldn't be considering another cycle, especially in your 'condition' .. if you are really experiencing this at all).

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**Mikeygas14** · 11-08-2002, 08:07 PM

i mean its bad, but its not horrible, i think taking bromo to clear up my nips and something else for my hair, would do, im not fucking in horrible condition , my balls are back to normal and everything, so i will just wait for my test results, and have a couple more hairs fall out till then .....

**joe_capone** · 11-08-2002, 08:11 PM

mikeygas.... you made it out like you were gonna die. now your saying your all fine??? just go to the ER for godsakes. dont wait for no damn results. anything can happen within a 24 hrs - 1 week. u never know, u can wake up with one ball smaller then the other or you might find your nostrill located on your forhead. GO TO THE ER!!! damn.

**Carlos_E** · 11-08-2002, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by joe_capone
mikeygas.... you made it out like you were gonna die. now your saying your all fine??? just go to the ER for godsakes. dont wait for no damn results. anything can happen within a 24 hrs - 1 week. u never know, u can wake up with one ball smaller then the other or you might find your nostrill located on your forhead. GO TO THE ER!!! damn.

Joe, I've given up. It's like talking to a brick wall.

**joe_capone** · 11-08-2002, 08:23 PM

U SEE??? I ONCE WAS AN IGNORANT TEENAGER LIKE HIM... NOW I RELIZE HOW MUCH IT PISSED EVERYONE OFF LOL. THERES NO POINT IN THIS ANYMORE. LET HIM GROW 12 NIPPLES SO HE CAN BREAST FEED HIS PUPPIES.

**BIGB** · 11-08-2002, 11:51 PM

dumb as shit he is all a game no one in there right mind would go from i'm fucked but who needs a doctor. i'll just play with this stuff myown remedies to ow i'm not that bad. And what really pisses me off is he has a cement head and ppl actuaaly cared to read and help him out and he throw it away.

**Mikeygas14** · 11-09-2002, 01:34 AM

alright, well i can understand how evyebody is just ripping me appart and everyghing, but i did my research but let me ask you something, how was i gonna fucking know that my body was gonna have this reaction??? enought of flaming me apart for no reaseach because i did, and just because my body got all messed up , is not my fault, not my balls are fine now... i dunno how but they are, im just saying going to the ER saying those symptons i don;t think will be good, my hair is falling out , unless there is a speciifc doctor that knows how to combat fina hairl loss then im good, and withe my nipples, why would bromo not work, what u think the doctor will presecirbe to me, they arlready took blood im await the results, what else cna they do but check my levels through my blood?? i go to the ER they are just gonna take blood again , i mean for now i think that im fine, depending on the results i think that they will just tell me that i need to take some hormonal supplement or bromo and my hair loss maybe it will stop or may be it won;t? i mean can you guys underxtand my situation? its hard...i dunno if my inurnace will cover steriod side effects
????? then what???? please stop just making fun of me...im just trying to think aboutt my life and what to do, i though me taking bromo and awaiting my test results was ok? i mean i have been off of fina for 6 weeks and this sh it is happeneing now???????

**Mastiff** · 11-09-2002, 02:01 AM

Mikey, the bro's who are saying go to the hospital are saying that because they have many different specialists who work together to solve your problem, and they do it quickly. They even have meetigs where they discuss with each other what to do about your case. You want as many people as possible to do their best QUICKLY. You are seeing a urologist(sp). What he knows about is your balls and bladder. He won't know squat about your pituitary. I think you messed up your pituitary. The doc that handles pituitary problems is an endocrinologist. I've suffered pituitary failure from doing roids too young, I see an endocrinologist all the time. I don't know if it could have been fixed if it was caught in time, but I didn't see a doctor. I got screwed for the rest of my life. None of us here want you to be screwed up like I am. We hope that you can be fixed up good as new. But we do know the longer it takes to get fixed the less likely the results will be good. Maybe you are right, and all they will do is blood tests and charge you an arm and a leg for it. Maybe things aren't as bad as it sounds from reading your posts. But maybe they are that bad. None of us know. But we do know you are in danger of messing up the rest of your life. Do you want to go thru life like me? We figure the benefits of going to the ER greatly outweigh the possible costs. Is your health for the rest of your life worth a few thousand dollars? The insurance might pay it, you don't know. If you can't pay right away, they can put you on a plan, there are all sorts of possibilities. My personal opinion is the urologist will be worthless to you. I think the hospital is the best idea, and now is the best time. Think about your future, Mikey.

**Mikeygas14** · 11-09-2002, 10:27 PM

ok , but i will go to the hospital i guess on Mon, even though i don;t see how lactating nips and hairloss can lead to major damage to my endocrine system

**Mastiff** · 11-09-2002, 10:32 PM

Thanks, Mikey. Lactating nips and hairloss won't damage your endocrine system. Its the other way around. Endocrine system damage can cause lactating nips and hairloss. Therefore we already know you have already damaged your endocrine system. We are trying to get you to go to the hospital to try and prevent it being MAJOR damage.

**Big Rush** · 11-09-2002, 10:51 PM

This post amazes me...mikey, you are having horrible sides and still asking advice about your next cycle???? you have got to be fucking kidding me...

**Mikeygas14** · 11-09-2002, 10:52 PM

so i shoudl sit in the waiting room, till a general practician sees me and then a endocrinologist will come see me?

Ok I will do it on Mon, after my last class and hopefully i get out with time to study I have two tests.

But im not gonna do any more cycles but what you guys can help me out is how to cut down fat and add lean mass...because i have tried so much ,a ll the sup in the world running, eating good, i have horrible genetics and a SLOW metabloism, anybody have a supplement/diet/workout routing step by step i can follow ????

**Mikeygas14** · 11-09-2002, 10:53 PM

thanks Big Rush your input is very welcome

**Mastiff** · 11-09-2002, 11:08 PM

Mikey, go in, get registered. When they ask why are you here, tell them everything. Don't leave anything out, write it all down before you go in. Tell them dosages, how often and of what roid. Tell them about following up with DNP . List all the side effects, tell them about how much hair can be pulled out. EVERYTHING! Tell them you are scared, someone told you it might be pituitary failure, and you want an endocrinology consult.
Why are you waiting until Monday?

**Mikeygas14** · 11-10-2002, 01:53 AM

because the Urgent care place is closed , i think that would be a better idea, unless u think an emergency room of a hostpital would be good on s Sun? i think that it would be a waste of time and money, and they woun;t be able to help me on sunday the way that i need to be helped

**Mastiff** · 11-10-2002, 02:45 AM

They are required to keep a full staff on weekends. You are right though in thinking they might not be the best of the bunch. I don't know if that is true, but it is possible. I'm just worried that you might be waiting too long. Don't go to the urgent care place. Do you know the best hospital in your area?

**Mikeygas14** · 11-10-2002, 11:28 AM

yeah i know it, but the Urgent care place had alot of doctors and its LIKE an emergency room but its closed on Sun. I think im gonna go tommorow, does anybody have an idea if my hair is gonna grow back im getting like uneven growing and missing patches in my hair its horrible

**Mastiff** · 11-10-2002, 11:51 AM

OK, Mikey. Do whatever you want to.

I don't know if your hair will grow back. It is possible it won't.

**Carlos_E** · 11-10-2002, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Mikeygas14
anybody have an idea if my hair is gonna grow back im getting like uneven growing and missing patches in my hair its horrible

Thats a question you need to ask your doctor.

**Agenor** · 11-10-2002, 01:02 PM

get well soon!!!

**D_BEAR** · 11-10-2002, 03:25 PM

have fun mikeygass
enjoy steroids
hell i think you should order more
i think dnp would help you stupid fuck
go to the GOD DAMNED
((((((((DOCTOR))))))))
AND DONT LEAVE TILL YOU ARE WELL!!!!!!!!!

**D_BEAR** · 11-10-2002, 03:32 PM

I DONT COME TO THIS BOARD TO HAVE A FUCKIN SOAD OPREA
NOW END THE DRAMA
GO TO THE DOC
EVERY ONE HERE IS TIRED OF BEGGIN YOU
NOW GO TO THE FUCKIN DOCTOR
TELL THEM EVERY THING YOU ARE TELLIN US
WE CANT HELP YOU
ONLY YOU CAN GO TO THE DOCTOR
DO YOU WANT MY OPION
I THINK YOU LIVER IS FUCKED WHEN MY MOM DIED
FROM LIVER FAILURE
SHE LOST ALMOST ALL HER HAIR
YOU COULD OF HAD A BAD LIVER BEFORE YOU STARTED
LIKE A GENETIC THING WRONG
THE KEY HERE IS WE DONT KNOW WE ARE NOT DOCTOR'S NOW GO TO THE DOCTOR OR STAY HOME AND DIE
YOU CAN ONLY LIVE ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AFTER YOUR LIVER SHUTS DOWN
HEY ARE YOU GETTIN A YELLOW TINT TO YOUR SKIN AND WHITES OF YOUR EYES

**boots** · 11-10-2002, 04:13 PM

This guy cant be attending a University, this is crazy!

**Mikeygas14** · 11-10-2002, 06:27 PM

shut up im fucking going to the urgent care place tommoroow leave me the fuck alone u assholes

**Commando_Barbi** · 11-10-2002, 07:00 PM

You know Mikey....I am no expert on AS....but these guys are and they are obviously concerned with your well being. They are getting frustrated with you because you keep asking the same questions and don't appear to be listening.

Don't get mad....just get yourself to a doctor and let the experts fix you. Self medicating is only gonna make things worse for you.

Go to the doc tomorrow and get yourself healed.

C.B.

**Mikeygas14** · 11-10-2002, 09:31 PM

i am gonnna, and i appreciate all this, i guess im just really pissed because im 19 and i lost so much hair i can tell myself and its thin as hell, its not even growing right, after i get healed up
can anybody help me out with a good, routine, for diet, supplements, and workout schedule without AS im not gonna use anything anymore , im gona do it all natural i hope something works. but guys anything u can helo me out , i have a very slow metabolism and bad genetics, i wanan cut down, please guys , thanks for all your help, im gonan go to urgent care tommorow and hopefully somebody helps me out, thanks a whole bunch, can you guy sdo me this one more thing and provide me with a step by step routine.

**boots** · 11-10-2002, 10:09 PM

Dude don't worrie about this right now ...
GO TO THE DOCTOR FIRST!!!!!

**Maytag** · 11-10-2002, 10:15 PM

whats your diet now

and AS diet should work fine for natual bodybuilder

as a natual bodybuilder you want to adopt the "eat more train less" mentality......by training less i mean high intensity less volume.....enough stimulation is enough stimulation..anymore and you're just gonna cut into your recovery time

whats is your workout routing now?

as for suppliments, the only thing i use is a multi vitamin and some protein powder