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    kaoz&zen is offline Junior Member
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    I'm Back. as if you all care, but =what do you think?

    Okay, recent;y i have not been on much due to personal problems. I had a car trouble, be my girlfriend of two yeears has left me and i have had my house along with 3000 dollars and 5000 valiums broken into.All my test prop, fina and dboll was taken as well. Not only this, but a local guy from my area has scammed myself and several board members,i need to take care of this So i am without ycle and am ending in week2. No nbig d3eal, my problem is tht i have been partying way tooo much (driniking, drunk food extra). My goals have changed.. For modelling you body type has to change too much to often and i'm tired of being told what to doso i'm gooi ng for my own personal aesthetics.. I willl estimate my bf at about 15-16% 190lbs 6' high right now/ So here is my proprosed plan. To be around 195-200 with bf% around 10.-11% Which d o you htink is better for this all?
    I will be running a 10mg AM d-bol vbridge the n next 20 days as well
    Weeks 1-8 400mmg QV Deca shot on monday
    Weeks 1-11 QV Test Enanth 500mg M-F(250 ea)
    Clomid after. No arimi...no need persoanlly i know
    Possibb;ly, haven';t ddecided, it matters how cycle goes.During weeks 6-10 every other week 3 day dnp run or waiting till later on an drunning a lnger dnp run at end of cycle.

    Okay cycle sound solid or no? Funds are limited b/c amountof mone =y lost.

    Two choices for workout plans (b/c of scliosis no deads, no true squats)
    A-5 mings rest between full sets.
    [A1]Mon-Shoulders, Chest,Tri's[/B]
    Incline Bench (3 sets light warm upo increasing, one last set till fatigue as heavy as posssibe)
    Flat Flyes-1 set heavy as possibl;e to fatigue
    Seated Military (warmm ups, one last fatigue)
    Cable Pushdowns (3 warm ups,. last set to fatigue)
    Reverse grip cable pushdowns (1 set to fatigue)
    EZ CurlBar Extensiopns (1 set to fatigue)
    Burn out to fatigue on dips.
    [B2]Tues-Cardio Abs[/B]
    My abs succk.. i hate cardio,has to be sTtionarybiking, helpme out here, arty!
    [B3]Wed. Legs[/B]
    Seated Leg Presses (3 sets warm-up, 1 set heavy to fatigue, 1 set 20 with 2 plates to burn)
    Seated Calf Extensions (1 set heavy to fatigue)
    Layin Calf poor sex simulationg machine (1 set failure)
    Stannding Leg Presses (3 sets to warm upo, 1 to fatigue, then 20 at light weight to pump.)
    [B4]Thurs-cardio and Adbs[/B]
    My abs succk.. i hate cardio,has to be sTtionarybiking, helpme out here, arty!
    [B5]Fri- Arms, Back, Shoulders[/B]
    Widegrip LAt Pulldopwns (3 warm ups, ope heavy to fatigue)
    ONe Arm Dumbell Rows (1 set to fatigue)
    Seated Cable Rows (3 warm ups, 1 fatigue)
    Either Chins or close grip palms facing pulldons (1 to fatigue)
    Standing EZ Curls (3 warnn uos 1 fatigue)
    Atanduing Alternatiung DB curls 1 set fatigue
    Cross body/concentration standing curls DB 1 fatigue
    [B6-7] Rst or cardio, u guys think i need ti.

    or not as muc rest between sets, maybe water break
    Mon- (all dunmbell)
    3 sets 80%incline bench
    2 sets 80% flat flyes
    2 sets incline flyes
    2 sets decline bench
    3 sets cable pushdowns-tris
    3 sets reverse grip cable pulldowns
    2 seyts heavy ttricep extensions


    Tues
    3 sets wide grip cable pulldown
    3 sets seated cable row
    2 sets one arm dumbell rows
    3 sets close grip pullldowns (palms in)
    3 sets standard bar curl
    3 sets hammer curls
    3 sets inener cross body vurls

    Thursday
    3 sets leg presses
    3 sets leg curls,
    3 sets hamstring curls (i thihnk they're called)
    3 sets standing calves
    3 sets shoulder Hig rows (trAPS)
    3 sets lateral raises


    Which do u htink would better fit my goals? 3 days cardio on off days fromfirst seession? 3 days cardio ppost worout on all secionts of 2 nd idea? any help appreciated. cardio 5 days a wek what?

    Nutrition
    Meal 1- 6 egg whgites, 1 yolk, oz ground beef, 1 cup oatmeal w/sweet n low
    Meal2- 4g carbs protein shake with 2tbsp heavy whip cream and 4 strawberries (fresh)
    Meal3 8oz chicken, steak, tuna or fish & 1 cup pasta or6 oz baked potato 1 cup veggies
    Meal4- Same as meal 2
    Poat Wrokout Shake- Myoplex deluxe, extra protein 150g carbs b4 tanning after workout
    Meal 5 - Same as 3
    Meal 6- 8 oz ground beef. 6mg melatonin

    On non-workour days thuogh, no pastas or potatoes, plus nu whip cream,. never soda, never dairy


    Before asking i have quite a cycle history and have run these products t these doseagges befroe s well.

    Do you think following this i could put on a little mass and get shredded (comparitively?)

    k&z

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    KeyMastur is offline VET
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    For modelling you body type has to change too much to often and i'm tired of being told what to doso i'm gooi ng for my own personal aesthetics.. I willl estimate my bf at about 15-16% 190lbs 6' high right now/ So here is my proprosed plan. To be around 195-200 with bf% around 10.-11% Which d o you htink is better for this all?
    not a flame, but i didn't think models' BF % would be anywhere above 10 % ???? what exactly do you model ?

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    kaoz&zen is offline Junior Member
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    carpe diem then nymc.. key mastur.. i was 135 at 3.5 for a long time but went to 165 at 6% for 2 years
    some runway, little pictoral, lots of local stuff.. didn't mean to brag about it , but if oyu would like i will edit it out from post.. most models need abs that pop for runway or shirtless so this means <8%.. my abs ddon't even show above 8%.... college life changes shit, i was trying to get back into it, that was why the prop/dbl thnen tren winny cycle when i was at 12% last month but my shit got jacked and i have been partying too much.. my bf% right now is estimate in mirror while looking at midsection not sure what it is..btw there are several members here whoo know me and can vouch for my history and size (lack of) during 15-18years old-- till i juiced estrogencic fat is a bitch.

    hehe, btw plus sizes... key, cmon help me choose a workout plan and critique the diet.. u think along with the compound it will work?
    Last edited by kaoz&zen; 11-04-2002 at 08:56 AM.

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    KeyMastur is offline VET
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    oh, i wasn't taking anything away from your post, don't think that. like i said, i was just wondering. every male model i see on E ! is always tall, fairly skinny, with very low BF.

    If I were you I would go ahead and take the Deca & Enan shots at the same time - possibly load them in the same syringe - instead of doing Deca just on Mondays - split it up into 200 mg shots on the same dates as your Enan.

    As for your workout, it's a bit different You're not going to get much by doing 1 set to fatigue and then jumping to another exercise.

    I'm not real sure on how to interpret the first workout plan you have laid out. I do like the second Mon / Tues / Thurs that you have laid out. You don't really have much for shoulders in there either.

    As for cardio if you're looking to shed some BF % - try doing it in the morning before you workout.

    I won't touch on the diet - I'll let someone else hit that up if it needs changing.

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    KeyMastur is offline VET
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    Here is Big Kev's workout routine. He's definitely got a great physique. You can also ask Mike_XXL for some tips.

    Day 1-chest

    Flat barbell bench press-4 sets, 2-5-8-10 reps
    Incline dumbbell press-4 sets, 6-8-12-12 reps
    Pec deck-3 sets, 10-16 reps
    Incline machine press-3 sets, 8-12 reps
    Cable crossovers-3 sets, 12-20 reps

    Day 2-back

    Bent barbell rows-4 sets, 6-8-10-12 reps
    Hammer strength pulldowns-4 sets, 8-10-12-12 reps
    Low pulley rows-4 sets, 10-12-12-15 reps
    Pulldowns with narrow v-bar-3 sets, 10-10-12 reps

    Day 3-shoulders

    Barbell shoulder press-4 sets, 4-6-8-10 reps
    Side laterals-4 sets, 8-10-10-12 reps
    Rear delt machine-4 sets, 8-10-10-12 reps
    Shrugs- 4 sets, 12-20, reps
    Side lateral machine-3 sets, 12-15-20 reps

    Day 4-arms(superset tris and bis)

    Straight barbell curl-4 sets, 4-6-8-10 reps
    Scull crushers-4 sets, 4-6-8-10 reps
    Dumbellcurls-3 sets, 8-10-10-12 reps
    Cable pressdowns-3 sets, 8-10-10-12 reps

    Day 5-legs

    Barbell squat- 5 sets, 2-4-6-8-10 reps
    Leg extentions-4 sets, 8-10-12-12 reps
    Hack squats-4 sets, 8-10-10-12 reps
    Hamstrings
    Stiffleg deadlifts-4 sets, 8-10-10-12 reps
    Lying leg curls- 4 sets 10-10-12-12 reps
    Calves
    Seated raises-4 sets, 6-8-10-12 reps
    Standing raises-8-10-12-15 reps


    All sets are to ABSOLUTE MUSCLE FAILURE!!!
    Abs should be done twice a week.
    Eat 3000-4000 calories a day

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    kaoz&zen is offline Junior Member
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    key thnaks i appreciate the help alot, i might just be making my own shit iif easier (done fina before) and running 12 weeks of prop (100mg/ed) and 600mg deca with possibly last 35 days of winny for same price of that cycle interests me.. whtcha trhinik? That first workout program was giving to me by a few guys who compete in their states (nuot sure what levels) and the sdiet is sonis9 and a few other competitors,. any advice appreciated

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    key, rememmber i do have some muscle memory as well, and not tryin gto put back on htat much mass.. i htink 3200 cals might be just enopugh.. especially with like casein or somet=ething before bed eh? you think?

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    If you need to go cheap why not synovex-h and finaplix -h? Test prop and fina will get you cut, and you can't get cheaper.

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    i can get pure powder for same price, so i think i would do that.. just don't know if i wanna fuck with making it.. i have run fina befroe.

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