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    bounty is offline New Member
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    Trying To Do It Right

    HI -new to forum and trying to gain as much knowledge as possibile.

    to provide you w/some info about me
    basicly a beginer to a/s except for a cyle about 5 years ago sust/deca

    now i would like to achieve alot better physic and great definition
    im 32
    6'0
    190lb
    w/a little spare tire i wana get rid of!

    i kinda got ahead of my self and purchased a 10ml/eq and 12 amps of sust 250 & clomid ,for a un-complete cycle . so now i would like to hear from some of the senior members on the best way to complete this for the gains im after. , and ive been looking around and have a couple ideas
    on what i can do, but i would like advice from the more experianced(sp).

    thanks
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    When you say 12 vials of Sus do you mean amps or 10ml vials?
    I'm assuming you mean amps, but i'm just making sure.
    You can either bulk or cut. You shouldn't try to do both. The reason why I say this is because most ppl can't do this effectively.
    What is your main goal? So we're on the same page here....

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    sorry i mean amps, bulking into winter would probaly be best ?

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    Yes bulking during the winter is you best bet.
    Now some ppl recomend that you should use alot of sus the first few weeks to get your blood levals up. This is because the short and long acting esters in the Sus. Personally I don't think that is really nessasary for a beginer. But some ppl will disagree.
    How bout this cycle:
    Weeks 1-4 D-bol 30mgs e/d
    Weeks 1-10 Sus 500mgs a week (frontload @ 750mgs for the first two weeks)
    Weeks 1-10 Eq 400mgs (front load @ 600mgs for the first 2 weeks)
    Clomid
    Or:
    Weeks 1-10 Sus 500mgs a week (frontload @ 750mgs for the first two weeks)
    Weeks 1-10 Eq 400mgs (front load @ 600mgs for the first 2 weeks
    Weeks 9-13 Winny 50mgs e/d
    Clomid 2 days after the last administration of winny.

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    bounty is offline New Member
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    this is the kinda info i was looking for thanks MBaraso
    any body else ?

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    I think MBaraso covered it well! Oh, don't forget your Nolva.

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