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    Rai
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    Prop

    First time poster long time reader.
    Hello all!

    My first cycle ever.
    Age 33 training for 4 years.
    5.10" 187 at 15% bf. I was about 154 with higher bf when I started.
    I am looking at running a light cycle to maintain muscle mass as I cut. I want to use this to see how I would react to the gear all together.
    My blood work was ok but the test was on the low side.
    Now for the cycle.
    I can actually get prop in cream form for free (mate is on trt), or buy the injectable.

    I plan to run Prop 50mg eod for 12 weeks.
    PCT will be
    Nolva 40mg daily for first two weeks
    Nolva 20mg until I am back to normal.

    Any comments will be appreciated.

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    IMO, your BF% is too high to begin a cycle.

    Im glad to see you have made some nice gains going from 154 to 187. Perhaps a few diet tweaks would get you to your full natural potental.

    Also, i not suggest Prop for a first time user.

    Test E or C is usually best due to the injection schedule.

    Prop is best used when injected ED.

    Short Esters + Pin ED = Best way to Juice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    IMO, your BF% is too high to begin a cycle.

    Im glad to see you have made some nice gains going from 154 to 187. Perhaps a few diet tweaks would get you to your full natural potental.

    Also, i not suggest Prop for a first time user.

    Test E or C is usually best due to the injection schedule.

    Prop is best used when injected ED.

    Short Esters + Pin ED = Best way to Juice!
    Sorry bro made a mistake on bf% should be 13%
    Lol that sounds funny now.

    I was 15% when I started!

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    im not as smart as some of the guys on this site, and i personaly disagree with the bodyfat being to high at 15% to cycle what u want, i think if u run adose of 50mged/or 100mgeod with a good ai and hit cardio hard u will cut like a mother...
    diet has to be in check and training must be crazy intense, but if u limit the bloat, and estrogen, the sides should be minimal, only if ur cutting...
    just my take, i know someone will check me on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman33 View Post
    im not as smart as some of the guys on this site, and i personaly disagree with the bodyfat being to high at 15% to cycle what u want, i think if u run adose of 50mged/or 100mgeod with a good ai and hit cardio hard u will cut like a mother...
    diet has to be in check and training must be crazy intense, but if u limit the bloat, and estrogen, the sides should be minimal, only if ur cutting...
    just my take, i know someone will check me on this
    I plan to run 50mg eod.
    I will be on 2120 clas a day.
    250 protein 145 carbs and 60 fat split into 7 meals.
    I will do a refeed on leg days.
    My routine is:
    Mon- Upper Power (1/2hr moderate intensity cardio after)
    Tues- Lower Power (1/2 moderate intensity cardio after)
    Wed- HIT (abs after)
    Thu- Upper hypertrophy
    Fri- Lower hypertrophy
    Sat- HIT
    Sun- Rest

    I will re-evaluate after cycle has been started as I don't know how I will react. This routine has worked for me in the past. I usually do medium bulk and short cut cycles. This time I want to get under 9% with minimal muscle loss.

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    As war said before, I think the trauma from going to never previously injecting to injecting eod or ed will be too much for you. Prop is best used injecting ED. Stick with a longer estered Test such as Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate for 12 weeks. This cycle would require you to inject twice a week, about every 3.5 days.

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    I just spoke to my TRT buddy about what he is on.

    He reckons his Prop trans is 90% absorbable according to his doc!!!

    He offered some to me and I said that I would need 20g to get anything out of it.
    He thinks you don't!
    Has anyone heard of transdermal with such a high absorption rate or is he talking out of his arse?

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    Looks like back to the drawing board for me!

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