?Question? about what cycle I should do 6'5 285lbs mma trainer

[JR G lady]

I need some suggestions on what cycle i should use. I used to use winnie i did 2 cycles of that with a good diet and wieght loss pills. and it was ok i got a decent size but I'd like to get cut up and muscular.

But i would like to take it up a notch I would like to take winnie again with clen i heard lots of good thing about it. most of my fat is on my gut area and thighs. but i been training for a while and get dismotivated wen i see the gut get smaller but is still there.

The weight i went down to was 257 and I was losing my muscles too I was reading a little about Tren , and i was thinkin maybe if i stack those 3 maybe i could accomplish what i been shooting for.

Besides it all i was 342 lbs 2yrs ago b4 i started to train hard.

Would gladly appreciate your help guys Thanks, JR G Lady

[Dukkit]

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[redz]

Many people report losing cardio with tren . I havent found this to be true at all but most people insist it will hurt your endurance though also tren should always be ran with test. I would actually sugest running a cycle of test prop with clen and t3 to cut down. The prop will help prevent any muscle wasting from the cutting.

[Lemonada8]

only 2 cycles under ur belt... both winnie? im guessing orals also?

i suggest dont use tren because of the cardio effect and ur a mma dude
i suggest use prop and winny...

be sure u have a good diet plan and good work out and ull see the gains you want

[Dukkit]

hmmm

still tryin to figure out the screename

[WARMachine]

Lets see the other stats!

Age?
BF%?
pct/estrogen control knowledge?

Sounds like you should be losing BF% before cycling again.

Maybe use some Clen for a while and get your BF% down to sub 15% and then put on some LMM with a cycle.

Thats my .02

[JR G lady]

Hey guys thanks for all the feed back well bf% im not 100% sure now but at 270 i had about 18% but i wanna come down to at least 230 cut up, so tren will def fcuk up my cardio? i need to loose the weight cus i dont wanna fight at such a heavy weight its hard enough that they can hardly find me a fighter.

but how much clen do i have to use and are the results dramatic ?
i also took clen b4 maybe i didnt use it right bcus i really didnt feel a thing i used about 50 tabs and my friend used the other half it came 100 in it. maybe that could of been the prob.

and what do u guys feel about me using xendrin rfx? i took hydoxycut hardcore and i got great results but depression side effects towards the end.

and the screen name it was cus b4 i used to get G-ladys X thats wat i was known for b4. for who asked.
sry for the grammer im on my cellphone net

[anon03191970]

Your weight swings are too extreme to cycle in my opinion. That means you lack diet discipline.

At 257lbs you were losing too much muscle?

[WARMachine]

Hey guys thanks for all the feed back well bf% im not 100% sure now but at 270 i had about 18% (First off you NEED to bring that down if you wanna run Tren.)but i wanna come down to at least 230 cut up, so tren will def fcuk up my cardio? (It will murder it, trust me, i fight professionally.) i need to loose the weight cus i dont wanna fight at such a heavy weight its hard enough that they can hardly find me a fighter.

but how much clen do i have to use and are the results dramatic ?
i also took clen b4 maybe i didnt use it right bcus i really didnt feel a thing i used about 50 tabs and my friend used the other half it came 100 in it. maybe that could of been the prob.

and what do u guys feel about me using xendrin rfx? i took hydoxycut hardcore and i got great results but depression side effects towards the end.

and the screen name it was cus b4 i used to get G-ladys X thats wat i was known for b4. for who asked.
sry for the grammer im on my cellphone net

Check these out bro

Diet Help
Diet help

Diet Section
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

Choosing Diets
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

Clen FAQ
Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.


They will get you started, i dont think youre ready for a cycle just yet.

Let me know if you have anymore questions...

[Lemonada8]

hydroxyhardcore worked well for me, with a good diet and xtra cardio, they are allt he same u gotta find one that works for u like hydroxycuthardcore, lipo-6, lipo oxo, all those fat burners (basically they put u in a buzz w/ caffine) or something liek clen will raise ur body temp like a 1/2 a degree, aka a thermogenesis which will hepl u burn more calories... i say DONT use t3 unless ur doin a cycle, which if u do a cycle A) make sure u are educated before u start (if u feel stubborn to want to do a cycle) B) if u do a cycle, ir ecomment just a prop cycle because with a good diet and cardio it wil help u cut that weight...
most say u wanna be no more than 15% bf before starting a cycle cause that requires some knowledge of training and diet... and ur a mma dude so u should know training... just get ur diet better and ull get those gains quick...

so recap... if u wanna do cycle, do prop and clen...