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    Cycle planning help.

    hi, id like to use test prop at 100mg a day, eq at 600mg a week, dbol for weeks at the begining with proviron as te androgen if i am not to use the prop yet, and i can possibly use anavar as well. i have access to virormone, qv eq, and naposims for this cycle and i am trying to save money and get the best results. i would just like input on the best way to set this up. thanks.

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    what the fuck do i have to do to get ONE answer anymore? shit.

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    hey bro, that attitude aint gonna get you anything.

    i understand your frustration, but you catch more flies with honey rather than vinegar.
    you cant just throw a bunch of aas in the mix, and expect us to make a decent cycle for you. YOU make the cycle, we'll critique it and fine tune if necessary. you gave very little info, other than what aas you wanted to use and had access to. no cycle length, and few doses.
    i know you bro, and we've spoken via pm before. you didnt strike me as the type of person that would come into something like this unprepared, so why are you doing it now? lay it out for me, clean it up some, and i will be glad to help you tune it up.

    peace bb79

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    i have had a cycle laid out and i posted it but didnt get many responses. here it is. i also am thinking about saving up to add anavar at the end.

    NAPOSIM DBOL 25-50mg ED week 1-4 will see how i react to dosages.
    PROVIRON 25-50mg ED week 1-4 "
    ** EQUIPOISE 100mg ED week 1-9
    FERRING VIRORMONE PROP 100mg ED week 5-12
    NOLVADEX 50mg ED weeks 13-14
    NOLVADEX 15mg ED weeks 15-16
    ARIMIDEX .5mg ED weeks 13-16
    CIALIS weeks 13-16 "just in case"
    nolvadex is my post cycle choice and since i have arimidex sitting around i decided i could use it here also right? another question i have is the dose on anavar. i see some people using up to 150mg ED of drol and i wonder IF i got enough money, could i use 150mg ED of var? also can anyone tell me if ** is truely inferior to QV? should i drop the eq and just run the prop weeks 1-8 and make it an 8 week cycle? i had another idea about using a quarter cc of organon sust and a cc of virormone a day instead of all prop? what do you wonder fellows think? please share your knowledge. thanks, alot of questions, i know but i do think about all of them and the only way of straighten it out is through others experiences. this cycle will cost alot and i want to be sure.

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    i am thinking of (if i get the money) keeping the eq running till week 13, anavar 50mg ED week 13-16 and proviron from week 13-16. any input? i think thatd be killer. thanks

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    hey bro,
    youre all over the place here, and youre making this way more complicated than it has to be. just because you have stuff, dosent mean you have to use it all in this cycle. if you want to run prop and eq as the base in your cycle, then a lot of sticking is in order. you up for that? im assuming since youre wanting to run eq @100mg ed, the eq you have is 50mg/ml?
    lets clean this up a little...........


    prop 1-13 100mg ed or eod (up to you)
    eq 1-10 100mg ed
    anavar 50-60mg ed weeks 8-13

    if proviron is going to be your anti-e of choice, just run 50mg ed throughout.

    i personally wouldnt go this route. i would get some tt eq, and run either enan or cyp with it. you can still throw the anavar and prop in towards the end if you like, while the eq and enan are tapering out.
    this is also where i would use the arimidex , not proviron, but that is up to you as well..........

    peace bb79

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    I don't have anything to add, just wanted to say excellent advice bb79 as always, very well handled.

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    bb79, the proviron isnt ncessarily as antiE but as an androgen to keep me from going impotent in the early weeks when i use dbol and eq only. i am waitin to use the prop for when the eq kicks in. basically, its a dbol prop eq cycle. i just didnt want to have to run a short cycle and waste the eq. therefore i chose to use dbol and proviron for 4 weeks to delay my 8 weeks of prop to facilitate 9 total weeks of eq. i am considering estrless eq and prop for 8 weeks with dbol at the beggining. the eq i have available now is the ** and qv 200mg versions but i figure that if i am shooting daily with the 2ccs of prop, i will just add a half cc of eq dail of a whole cc EOD into the larger muscles like the quads and glutes. understand better? anyone with experience with esterless eq? thanks. i am in my last week of winny, the test and eq is just getting out of my system and i just moved out of college and into my girlfriends house and i have a better eating environment, i already gained 8 pounds in a few days. yes, i am eating THAT much better. on my first cycle, te timing was bad and i personally had trouble eating were i was. but now i am right on track. in closin, i think id like to go with the 8 week prop, dbol, esterless eq cycle so i cold get back "on" quicker. thanks

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    Originally posted by barbells79

    i personally wouldnt go this route. i would get some tt eq, and run either enan or cyp with it. you can still throw the anavar and prop in towards the end if you like, while the eq and enan are tapering out.
    this is also where i would use the arimidex , not proviron , but that is up to you as well..........

    peace bb79
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    the only human test i can get is testoviron and sust, both of which incude prop and require frequent injections to avoid wasting the prop. i had ideas of shooting 1/4 cc of testoviron and 3/4cc of virormone ED, but wouldnt the prop alone be better? i want daily shots to avoid highs and lows, i want to stay steady OR increase.

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    b79, thanks for the idea of running the prop 13 weeks, do you think this will be too uncomfortable? i am switching from 23g 1inch to 25g 1.5inch.

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    Originally posted by ANTWAAN
    b79, thanks for the idea of running the prop 13 weeks, do you think this will be too uncomfortable? i am switching from 23g 1inch to 25g 1.5inch.
    imho,
    this a long time to shoot ed or eod bro, but its totally your call. switching guages will definitely help, as a smaller pin will mean less discomfort. keep in mind that even though youre using a smaller guage pin, youre also going with a LONGER pin. this will limit you to shooting certain sites only because of the length.
    i would go with a 25g 1" for certain sites, and a 25g 5/8" for the other, smaller sites. youre gonna need all the sites you can get shooting ed.

    peace bb79

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    bb79, thanks for setting me on a more simple path. as bad as i want to use eq, im not gonna squeeze it into my cycle when i rea;;y cant. i decided to go 8 weeks total of prop 100 a day with dbol for the first 4 weeks. i am contemplating adding half a cc of tren for the second 4 weeks. less time on, less time off. does this sound straight? thanks again. i am looking to gain quite a bit of weight and eat a ton of food, but not have the fat bloated dbol look when its all finished.

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    bro if your looking for a short sweet cycle
    why not just go with prop or suspension,dbol ,tren .
    wk 1-6 prop/suspension 100 mg ed
    wk 1-6 dbol 35-50 mg ed
    wk 1-6 tren 75 mg ed
    clomid 3 days out,cycleing again in 6 wks!
    you could use the 25 g 1.5 pins
    just cut the sheathing(cover) to 1 inch and put it back on when shooting delts and smaller muscle groups

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    4p has layed out a decent cycle for you as well bro.
    im not real wild about cutting the pins down, but to each his own.

    good luck, and drop me a pm and let me know how youre doing.........


    peace bb79

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    Originally posted by barbells79
    4p has layed out a decent cycle for you as well bro.
    im not real wild about cutting the pins down, but to each his own.

    good luck, and drop me a pm and let me know how youre doing.........


    peace bb79

    no bro im not saying to cut the pin!
    just the plastic cover and put it back over the pin,it will make it so you only go in at 1 inch and keep it stable!lol

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    sorry bro,
    missed the "sheath" portion of your post..........lmao


    peace bb79

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    i am worried about 75ED of fina being too harsh for only my second time and with the elevated test dosage. also i want time "on" after th dbol to give me time to cut the bloat and fat. does MY laid out cycle look ok? money also is a big factor when considering what i will use. i am basically switching over from dbol to fina week 5 as my drug on"top" of the test kinda. thanks for the responses guys this is great. i am almost solidly set on this cycle.

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    you could probably cut the doses down,run it a bit longer and drop the dbol sooner
    wk 1-4 dbol 35-50 mg ed
    wk 1-8 tren 35-40 mg ed
    wk 1-8 prop 75 mg ed

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    since i cant get or make the fina. this time i am goin just dbol and prop. 100ED of the prop, maybe next time ill replace the dbol with fina. should i go 6 weeks of both, test 6 and dbol 4? test 8 and dbol 4 or 6? thanks again. doe anyone else think this is a considereable stepup in potency from my all mexican enanthate50 eq400 winy 50 cycle? i hope so.

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