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    front loading dbol: 4-6 weeks necessary?

    If front loading dbol with test e/c, is it necessary to run the dbol for the full 4-6 weeks? Shouldn't 2-3 weeks be enough if the dbol is only a kick start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan666 View Post
    If front loading dbol with test e/c, is it necessary to run the dbol for the full 4-6 weeks? Shouldn't 2-3 weeks be enough if the dbol is only a kick start?
    i think you mean if you are kickstarting a test enth/cyp cycle with dbol right?

    and we need your stats first bro

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    diet?

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    if you mean frontloading the test, it would kick in faster, so you might not need the dbol that long, but it can't really hurt.

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    Frontloading dbol ? And what does test e/c mean? You're going to frontload those as well? Laymans terms please as i'm a little slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Frontloading dbol ? he means using dbol to kickstart his test enth/cyp cycleAnd what does test e/c mean? short hand for test enth/cypYou're going to frontload those as well? Laymans terms please as i'm a little slow.
    we still your stats bro

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    It's his first post, he is new to all this. Go easy on him guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    we still your stats bro
    Thanks Phate, i figured as much. I just thought he said that he was going to frontload the dbol .? That's how i read it anyway. Maybe i'm wrong.
    I was basically waiting for him to respond. But looks like he went to bed. But you're right, need stats first!

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    my stats

    34 yrs.
    183 cm (~6 foot 1)
    88 kg (~200 pounds)
    bf: 6%
    never done a cycle before.

    Sorry for my wrong terminology, i meant that i am wanting to use dbol to kickstart the test enanth or cyp cycle. most of the posts seem to suggest 4 - 6 weeks with the dbol. any reason for taking the dbol so long? i know its easy to get and cheap, but still.

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    200 lbs and 6% bf and never cycled? Whats your secret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaberle_15 View Post
    200 lbs and 6% bf and never cycled? Whats your secret?
    I was thinking the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan666 View Post
    34 yrs.
    183 cm (~6 foot 1)
    88 kg (~200 pounds)
    bf: 6%
    never done a cycle before.

    Sorry for my wrong terminology, i meant that i am wanting to use dbol to kickstart the test enanth or cyp cycle. most of the posts seem to suggest 4 - 6 weeks with the dbol. any reason for taking the dbol so long? i know its easy to get and cheap, but still.
    first off, can you post some pics, i would like to see the 6% bf, not calling you a liar, just saying that that is what some pros compete at, very hard to get too, though i can believe it since you are my same weight but i'm 5'7

    anyway, the reason we suggest running dbol for 4-5 weeks is because that is around the amount of time it takes for test enth/cyp to peak in your blood, because of the ester attached to them, it takes time for them to build up, so running the dbol, which being an oral is at peak concentration in your blood a couple hours after you take it, you can effectively start your cycle immediately instead of waiting 4-6 weeks for the test to "kick in"

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    thanks

    Thanks Phate. I was under the impression that the test reached peak a little more quickly. Good to know.

    PS - No pictures. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan666 View Post
    Thanks Phate. I was under the impression that the test reached peak a little more quickly. Good to know.

    PS - No pictures. Sorry.
    too bad, why not, just edit our your face

    anyway, the thing that affects the how quickly an injectableee substance peaks is called an ester, it is basically a chain of Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen that the body has to break down before it can get to the substance the ester is attached too

    if you look at the esters in test enth/cyp vs. propionate , you will see that the ester for test enth/cyp is much larger than that of test propionate, that is why prop is called a "short estered testosterone " and why it peaks in a few days as opposed to weeks

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