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Hello, I am currently on a prop, fina, winny, clen cycle. I am having a hell of a time trying to sleep. I usually am up until 6am on my computer and wake up around 9am. I know quality sleep is very important for muscle growth, what OTC product could I take that would put me out but not leave me groggy the next day? Or is there a prescription that my doc would write a script out for? I need something quick my cycle is waisting away.
Anyone with some GREAT ADVICE, please pm me.
Thanks,
Bigchest
melatonin works for me. I cant sleep and Im on test/deca. melatonin puts me out though. you can get it at GNC
i work at gnc and melatonin is very popular. might want to try it before you add another drug to your system.
thanks for the tips guys.... I might give melatonin a try, what is a good dose? also would a product like tylonel pm have any negative effects on muscle growth? How about if I could find the active sleeping aid of tylonel pm with out the acetametaphine?
thanks
Hey bro, I've had chronic insomnia for almost 2 years now. Here's some quick advice...
First of all, how late in the day is your last clen dosage? Make sure its not after 3pm, because that will effect your sleep.
Do you have a regular sleep pattern (nomally)? Try to goto bed and wakeup at the same time each day. This really helps.
Don't drink before sleeping, or eat a big meal too close to bedtime. Don't workout within 3 hours of sleeping.
As for the drugs/supps. I have gone through almost everything you can imagine. After I incorporated some of the strategies I just listed, the most important being regularization of your patterns..... I started taking 1 melatonin (3mg) 1 hour before bedtime, and then a second melatonin (3mg) 30 mins before bedtime. LIE DOWN, and watch tv /w low volume or read a magazine. Don't get too excited now, no porn mags...
I've slept great for the past couple of weeks, and this is in the peak of my cycle.
i had the same problem now i take a couple puffs off the kind bud, laugh my ass off watching "friends"(11pm) then its off to sleep for at least 7 hours(also i started eatings fat free water ice to protect my self from late night munchies
tylenol pm might work. you can find find active ing in tylenol pm without acet. muscle relaxants will work to to calm you down and there are some other things that work and are not to hard to get
tylonel has a negative effect on protein synthesis. Look into melatonin or GHB (or GHB analogues-see GHB thread). I wouldn't go with sleep drugs. Sure, they make you fall asleep, but usually reduce REM time while sleeping, causing you to recover less.
Hey bro i use valerian to knock me out when i really cant sleep or hops tea when i kinda need a lil help.....
I dont know if you should try this but this is what I do, Ive had insomnia for the last 4 yrs. I take 10 Unisom pills and three teaspoons of Nyquil, and it will knock me out in about an hour or so.
I think best way to avoid insomnia is not to eat/drink anything big or workout before sleeping..
Best time for workout in my opinnion: 3pm
The worst part about the late night workouts for me is the late night pissing. I don't know if others have the same problem, but for me, its bad enough to ruin my sleep.Quote:
Originally posted by fast
I think best way to avoid insomnia is not to eat/drink anything big or workout before sleeping..
Best time for workout in my opinnion: 3pm
don't forget the most natural way - just get ya a little lotion and rub one out.
This is definitely the cheapest, most readiliy available option. I would NOT use Tylenol PM or any other col/sinus/flu meds. Why take stuff you don't need( the cold/sinus/flu med part ), I would just get an OTC sleeping aid or ask your doc for ambien, it's a perscibed sleeping pill. If you take any perscibed sleeping pills you will more than likely be one drowsy mofo during the day. Oh yeah, I dunno if taking this while on AS is a nono.Quote:
don't forget the most natural way - just get ya a little lotion and rub one out.
as for the melatonin, i'd say take around 3-6 mg before bed, thats a normal dose, if that doesn't work try 9 mgs
TF3
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I took 9 mgs once..... that was one TOUGH morning. Are you using the time release? I'm waiting until I run out of my current supply to grab the time-release melatonin.Quote:
Originally posted by TrenFreak3
as for the melatonin, i'd say take around 3-6 mg before bed, thats a normal dose, if that doesn't work try 9 mgs
TF3
I tried simply sleep and it worked good but melatonin seems to be the best choice out there. I am thinking about a nyquil/melatonin combo before bed on my rough nights. Also do not up your d-bol dosage and take a shot of gear on the same day ater 6pm. Dont take any d-bol after 6pm.Point the alarm clock away from you and out of sight.Try keeping a cold washcloth next to your bed so you can use it to cool yourself down if you get heat flashes.
The funny thing is that i need to do all of this shit only Sunday and a few Mondays a week.Then i am fine the rest of the week!!
valerian does it for me!!!!!
Hey Partyboy I dont know about you but I smoke a little before bed...
ambien works good too, but you need a script for it or get someone who has a script. not sure if it has bad effects on the body though.
smoke it up brotha.you need your zzzzzzzzzzz's
I've used melatonin and it seems to work well. 6mg works with final protein shake for the night before bed
anything that makes u sleep will definelty get u adicted to it.....try some thing natural i have used many things like valium,ativan,xanax u name i have done it and its time to quit all these sleeping pills for me atleast
Ambien works a good. Only use it when you have to. You can become a slave to it. It should not be taken every night.
I would definitively recommend GHB or one of its analogs GBL, BD, GHV, or GVL. They mimic the natural sleep cycle. Whatever you do DO NOT go with Rx benzodiazepines, they severly hinder REM and Stages 3-4 (deep sleep). This the reason ppl feel drowsy the next they and brain fogged.
Good ol budweiser works for me a couple before bed and I'm out.
Whatcha gonna brother......