Cycle #2 Opinions

**FLEX_NuTz** · 11-17-2002, 04:58 AM

Whut up~

Im about to start on my second cycle, Im looking to put on some heavy serious muscle this winter. My first cycle was 500sust/400deca for 8 weeks.

Im 6', 205 pounds. Here is what I got planned for my second cycle:

Week 1-4: 30mg Ttokkyo Dbol e/d
Week 1-8: 750mg QV Test ENANTAT
Week 1-8: 50mg e.o.d Tornel EQ (spot injects)
Week 12-14: 5000 iu Organon HCG
And post clomid, nov and clen treatment.

If anyone has any suggestions or thoughts about this cycle, let me know.

Also - does anyone have any information about using dbol post cycle to help keep gains? I heard low doses of dbol at the end of ur cycle can help keep them... just curious if anyone has heard this too.

**fast** · 11-17-2002, 05:48 AM

Bro, that looks pretty heavy for 2nd cycle in my opinnion..
anyways happy gains

**Jack87** · 11-17-2002, 06:23 AM

The test is heavy for only your 2nd cycle... Shit at that pace you'll need to being doing 1 gram a day for your third cycle to get the same effect...

I'd keep it at 500mg per week for the whole cycle, that's plenty of test to get great results this time around...

***JohnnyB*** · 11-17-2002, 09:10 AM

You've gotten good advice from the Bros, hope you use it.

JohnnyB

**OGPackin** · 11-17-2002, 09:19 AM

Diesel has given u good advice!

OG

Originally posted by Diesel
"Im 6', 205 pounds. Here is what I got planned for my second cycle:

Week 1-4: 30mg Ttokkyo Dbol e/d
Week 1-8: 750mg QV Test ENANTAT
Week 1-8: 50mg e.o.d Tornel EQ (spot injects)
Week 12-14: 5000 iu Organon HCG
And post clomid, nov and clen treatment."

Alright, let's break it down:
1) You could definately bump the Dbol to 40mg/ed IMO
2) I agree with the other guys here. 750 may be a bit heavy for you. Hit 500mg/wk on the Enanthate . (It is different compared to the Sust you ran in your first cycle) Hell, I'm 285 and I'm running 750mg of Enanth.
3) EQ at 50mg/eod?? On a good week that is 200mg/wk. I say double it.

Also, why only eight weeks. I honestly do not feel you will be happy running the EQ for only eight weeks.

"Also - does anyone have any information about using dbol post cycle to help keep gains? I heard low doses of dbol at the end of ur cycle can help keep them... just curious if anyone has heard this too."

What you are talking about is bridging I believe. Many people will take dbol at 10mg/ed (taken in the morning) as a bridge to their next cycle.
However, we are talking about your second cycle here so I would stay away from bridging and allow your body to fully recoup between cycle.

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**FLEX_NuTz** · 11-17-2002, 02:18 PM

Very true. Thanks guys. I didn't get much results from the sust at 500 week so I was thinking of bumping up my test intake - but obviously your right and they arn't the same. I'll drop it down to 500.

I can afford to bump the cycle up to 12 weeks as well - that's not biggy. I appreciate the help and advice guys - just what I was looking for.