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**Nathan** · 11-20-2002, 11:06 PM

My quad is killing me. For what happened look down the page to when I was more humorous about he omna shot. Seriously, I'm shaking due to the pain right now. I'm afraid of like losing my leg or some shit. i keep getting a flash of my leg all rotted away and shit. I don't know. Could I have hit a nerve and it hit me slowly over the next fwe hours? Pass through a veing? Too much damn alcohol content? Anything? Please help.

**Nathan** · 11-20-2002, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Aragorn
Try a hot bath or icing it...you could also smash your fingers with a hammer to amuse yourself till you pass out.

Aragorn

this is not funny anymore okay?

**Aragorn** · 11-20-2002, 11:20 PM

Sorry bro...I'll delete it.

Aragorn

**nj_** · 11-20-2002, 11:35 PM

Maybe its an abcess? I don't know what to say bro, I've never heard of anyone's leg shaking like that from injecting in the quad. I mean, I've heard of pain but yours sounds pretty extreme.

**latman49** · 11-20-2002, 11:47 PM

Any discoloration or bruising?

**kingjmack** · 11-20-2002, 11:52 PM

I had a pain in my quad for about a week one time when i shot sus into it. The only thing i did was ice it down. It will probably get aggrivated by walking on it all the time. how big was the shot?

**chicamahomico** · 11-21-2002, 12:30 AM

K buds, I would start with alternatiting ice and heat for 15 min each until you get bored or go to bed; whichever comes first. If you have any A5/35, Ben-gay or similar product slop some on before bed. If you pecked a nerve or high BA is the culprit there is fuck all you can do save for pop painkillers and a few anti-inflamatories.
This shit happened to me during summer I limped around like a tard for like five days. Just make sure you cook up a good lie before you go to work tomorrow morning so you don't have to think up one on the fly when people ask why you're walking like a gimp. Hope this blows over quickly.

**popa** · 11-21-2002, 01:29 AM

I did a quad shot last year on a cycle and the pain shot right to my knee caps and they were swollen didn't know why, I just waited it out it took a week before everything was fine,
I injected in the upper front of my quad with a 22 1/2 gauge, 1 "1/2 pin I'll never do that again, now I use a 23 gauge "1 and go in to the outter upper thigh goes in like butter with no pain

hope you feel better soon bro

**JP1570** · 11-21-2002, 01:38 AM

Best of luck Nathan, I'm sure you'll be alright bro, like people said, take some painkillers and I would heat it not ice it but that's just personal preference. I'd also start popping the anti inflamatories.

**m16a2** · 11-21-2002, 02:15 AM

Take some motrin and keep taking it every 4 hours from when you wakeup till when you goto sleep. This will help keep the swelling down until your leg can heal. Sounds like you hit a bad spot, but it should be ok with some time.

**lilripped** · 11-21-2002, 02:20 AM

that same thing happened to my boy. his leg swelled up pretty damn bad I think he was shooting enanthate . it went away after about a week so in my opinion you should be fine. just do what these other bros are recommending.

**Ozzy** · 11-21-2002, 04:13 AM

Hope everything goes ok bro..........Good Luck Bro.
And I doubt your gonna lose your leg !!!!
I remember when you ate 3 day old oatmeal and you lived through that

***Pheedno*** · 11-21-2002, 07:35 AM

MOE MENTAL you must "Be patient and strong; for one day this pain will be usefull to you"

**XBiker** · 11-21-2002, 07:59 AM

Quad shots seem to give people the most problems.

I think it is the amount of nerve endings in the leg and the needle damages a nerve, which takes a little while to heal.

**Nathan** · 11-21-2002, 10:59 AM

Okay, here's what i think happened: i had something of an allergic reaction to the shot. It still hurts like hell mind you and I can't walk at all. This seems to be the case in people who have bad reactions to bee stings. I, for instance, used to be allergic to bee stings and my reation was lots of pain and exrteme swelling. The swelling is definitely extreme - my knee is barely recognizable it's gross. i barely slept last night and I'm out of painkillers so I guess I'll have to go to the fucking store which is going to hurt like hell. If the pain has subsided a bit by tomorrow I guess I'll be okay. Looks like I won't be doing deads this week yet again. Fuck!

**Rickson** · 11-21-2002, 11:02 AM

Are you generally allergic to prop? I don't remember hearing anyone talk about an unusually high BA content for omna at least compared to other sus type products. Keep us updated on how you are doing.

**Nathan** · 11-21-2002, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Rickson
Are you generally allergic to prop? I don't remember hearing anyone talk about an unusually high BA content for omna at least compared to other sus type products. Keep us updated on how you are doing.

Could very well be. Only ever shot it in **'s crap, assuming there was any in there, and I did get extreme swelling exactly like this in a few cases. I just don't know. I'm gonna pray it slowly starts subsiding like today.

***Cycleon*** · 11-21-2002, 11:42 AM

You probably did hit a nerve and or are having an alergic reaction to the high alchohol content in sust - it will inflame things all th more - as long as swelling starts to subside you should be ok - if you start to loose feeling in it, thats different - so be happy for the pain I guess - and besides, you really didnt want to do those deads anyway

**bigtraps** · 11-21-2002, 11:52 AM

Ok Nathen, Read this...hope it helps. after reading through here, it sounds like you shot ** stuff.
If so, last time i did ** prop/susp. OMG the pain was unbarable. I came so closed to just stopping the cycle all together. When i shot my leg, i would walk with a limp far days, so even with rotating injections, i was allways limping. Shoulder injections, pain was so bad, felt like my whole arm was on fire...made it impossible to sleep. By the end of my cycle I had so much cellular damage from the high BA content, that every time i would inject, blood would poor out of the injection site. My shoulders, after about 8 weeks, developed a bruised lump, about the size of a bouncy ball. on each shoulder....Made changeing in the locker room very interesting.

**Nathan** · 11-21-2002, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by bigtraps
Ok Nathen, Read this...hope it helps. after reading through here, it sounds like you shot ** stuff.
If so, last time i did ** prop/susp. OMG the pain was unbarable. I came so closed to just stopping the cycle all together. When i shot my leg, i would walk with a limp far days, so even with rotating injections, i was allways limping. Shoulder injections, pain was so bad, felt like my whole arm was on fire...made it impossible to sleep. By the end of my cycle I had so much cellular damage from the high BA content, that every time i would inject, blood would poor out of the injection site. My shoulders, after about 8 weeks, developed a bruised lump, about the size of a bouncy ball. on each shoulder....Made changeing in the locker room very interesting.

It's not ** bro. After last time, never again. This is Jelfa omna. Cripes man.

**goldenear** · 11-21-2002, 12:44 PM

Bigtraps, he said he shot Omnadren . I've taken omna before and always experienced that nagging soreness at the injection site about 12-24 hours post-injection. But it would go away after about 36 hours. I've never had a swelling problem with omna. 3 things to look for with an infection: swelling, redness, and heat. If all 3 are present, you better head to an ER quickly. They could run a few blood tests to help determine if your CBC panels are "off." If you think it's simply an allergic reaction, I'm sure you could have an allergy specialist run a few tests and determine if you're allergic to anything in the omna amp.

**Bigk** · 11-21-2002, 05:35 PM

well take an anti-histamine. I still dont' know if it's an allergic reaction, I too am allergic to bee's but mine just swells..... never hurts except for the initial sting. Hell, i went to football practice and bashed the hell out of it after taking quite a few anti-histamines

**tt333** · 11-21-2002, 06:30 PM

Definitly take a Anti-Histamine, But im allergic to everything, and I mean everthing but Ive never had problems with injecting AS. If its like that for a another day or two, I would go to the doctor.

**Equiguns** · 11-21-2002, 06:51 PM

I am too tired to type the long reply I want to. Let me tell you a few things. For the quad use a smaller needle, 23-27 depending on what you plan on shooting in there. 1 inch for the legs, 1.5 for the ass and shoulders is ok. You should avoid pain killers since they thin the blood and could possibly spread infection. Just to let you guys know pain killers are okay to take in important circumstances but avoid them if you can. I have skipped most of what I am supposed to be reading in med school and gone straight to steroids and there reactions...hehe...the important stuff...Accourding to some of my books test, deca , winny all of these roids should try to be kept away from pain killers, ect. And also you shouldn't put ben-gay or anything on there either, it also thins blood and has some other side-effects with anabolics....I will post something else explaining more once I am done reading these books, this is my first semester here and hopefully I will learn more. I got three other guys in my class (all three are already in rotations and finishing up med school) along with me who all were avid juice users as I was. Once Christmas comes around I am going to try to get them on here so we have some real doctors to help us out.

**latman49** · 11-21-2002, 09:27 PM

Nathan, I don't think it is an allergic reaction, although it could be. I did a bi shot with some fina a couple of weeks ago and had an allergic reaction and it swole up and itched like a murph and looked like a wasp sting, but no pain. If there is no bruising, I would think you hit a nerve or something. Better get it checked out, bro. You gotta protect that leg, they work best as a pair.