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11-12-2001, 02:04 PM
The Iron Game

Everyone says....

Clen has been shown to prevent, limit or halt cortisol production thus making it anti catabolic.

I just want to see some studies on this.

Peace
11-12-2001, 02:13 PM
partyboynyc

IG i'm w/ you bro

i have been hearing that theory since way back and i'm not buying it either.i think alot of guys are on other gear that is causing cell volumization and the clen is burning brown fat tissue, so....they have bulit up cell volumization in muscles so it's making them see pronounced muscle bellies and they are all like, hey!!look it's anti catabolic i can see my muscles and they don't have decreased in volume (due to water rentention)what do you think?
11-12-2001, 05:17 PM
atwa

i dont agree on that. :)
11-12-2001, 05:41 PM
dane26

i've read it in a couple books, the last one was a Dan duchaine book. when i have some time, i'll find his references. he always includes 'em
11-12-2001, 05:44 PM
pureanger

I wanna see the studies everyone has an opinion but I wanna see the facts.
11-12-2001, 05:45 PM
pureanger

I know dane wont let me down
11-12-2001, 06:05 PM
dane26

i'll look......just give me time. report cards are due this week
11-12-2001, 06:45 PM
Mike

Sorry IG - if you ask me that's crap. I have read COUNTLESS studies on Clen and that has no validity as far as I am concerned.
11-13-2001, 01:32 PM
gearedup

Can't help you here I personally hat clen, I can barely write on it, makes me tired and have shitty workouts! I always lose to much muscle when I take it!
11-13-2001, 04:34 PM
Adaptek

From what i understand Clen has a negative effect on muscle glycogen stores. Will have to dig in the achives to get this info.
11-13-2001, 11:16 PM
Psycoswole

Internationl Journal of sports medicine reported that increase in protein breakdown and increase in protein synthesis accounted for the tested animals increase in muscle size from clenbuterol treatment. I could find the exact studies and write them out, pain in the ass though. Its been documented by most major publications like Biochem Journal, Journal of Applied Physiology, American Journal Physiology, etc
11-13-2001, 11:17 PM
Psycoswole

Quote:

Originally posted by Adaptek
From what i understand Clen has a negative effect on muscle glycogen stores. Will have to dig in the achives to get this info.

Hastened fatigue, has a generally negative effect on training
11-13-2001, 11:25 PM
partyboynyc

i saw a similar study

in the new englan journal of medicine and it said all the same stuff.they tested it on chickens in the study i saw.
11-14-2001, 12:08 AM
juiceon

Re: Everyone says....

Quote:

Originally posted by The Iron Game
Clen has been shown to prevent, limit or halt cortisol production thus making it anti catabolic.

I just want to see some studies on this.

Peace

I don't have any studies, but I have read that our bodies produce ubiquitin, which breaks down muscle. Coritsol promotes/increases ubiquitin production, but clen reduces/prohibits the ubiquitin from acting. I guess maybe like Nolvadex blocks estrogen receptors. So clen does not act on the cortisol, but the ubiquitin.