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i started my cycle saturday with 250mg sustanon and am going to take winstrol on monday and deca 100mg on thursday .
my cycle is
1-6weeks sustanon 250mg
1-12weeks winstrol
1-12weeks deca starting with 100mg up to 200 down to 100
6-13weeks dbol starting with 20mg going up to 40mg going down to 20mg
when i will start seeing results??
what do u think about the cycle m8s ?
Why are you taking the dbol at the end of the cycle?
12 weeks of winny and straight into dbol is gonna kill your liver. Too much 17aa. Also doses are kinda low and tapering is a thing of the past.
i am taking dbol at end because i dont want to take every thing in the same time and dont want to lose what i gained i dont know my trainer told me this cycle can any 1 help? and am taking bcomplex and multivitamins.
and the dbols is with the winny not after il start dbol in 6th week.
help me plz
Start reading. There is a ton of info here. Do some searches. Read the edicational threads. You need clomid, anti-e, and ala. plus you first cycle should be a simple one: test and deca cycle or something like that. Also I just noticed you stop test at week 6 why is that:unsure:
man u guys piss me off every time say start reading i did read and u help with nth
If we piss u off,why r u here asking for help?
If u had reaserched you would have known that running winny for 12 weeks & dbol for 7 weeks at the same time is going to kill ur liver & running the sust for 6 weeks will do nothing really(it doesnt kick in untill about week 4-5 say)
What do I think about the cycle? I think its awful and needs to be completely revamped.Quote:
Originally posted by michi
i started my cycle saturday with 250mg sustanon and am going to take winstrol on monday and deca 100mg on thursday .
my cycle is
1-6weeks sustanon 250mg
1-12weeks winstrol
1-12weeks deca starting with 100mg up to 200 down to 100
6-13weeks dbol starting with 20mg going up to 40mg going down to 20mg
when i will start seeing results??
what do u think about the cycle m8s ?
1. Sust for 6 weeks is a waste.
2. Running 250mg/wk sust is a waste. Replace it with enanthate or cypionate.
3. 12 weeks of winstrol = good bye liver. Run it at the end of the cycle to harden you up and prevent the gap while waiting for the deca/sust esters to clear your system before hopping on clomid therapy.
4. Deca should be run at a constant dosage of 300-400mg/wk (for a first cycle) to see optimum results as it is a long acting ester and takes a few weeks to build up in your system before becoming effective.
4. Dbol should be run at the start to kickstart the cycle, I don't know what your trainer is telling you but he sure has no idea what hes talking about.
5. Don't taper the dbol, run it at 30mg/day for the first 4 weeks.
6. Get some anti-e's on hand, you'll thank yourself if gyno symptoms appear and remember, nobody loves the bloated moon face look.
nj thanks alot i am sorry guys i just called the trainer and he said the winstrol will be for 7 weeks and the dbol for 6 weeks and the dbol will be after the winstrol and i dont know what the trainer is doing but the thing that i trust him because he is a champoin in our country jordan he took 1st place and in the arab world he took the second place and he is good and can u tell me whats anti-e and what it do?
i thought you told us on another post that they have profesionals to help you with that stuff over where your from...
1.you can't take the winstrol the the d-bol...( your liver will fail )
2.sustanonshould be ran for atleast 8 weeks preferably 10.
3.d-bol should be taken at the beggining of the cycle
4.winstrol should be taken at the end
5. you can't take d-bol for 7 weeks
6. deca should be ran at 300 - 400 mg
7. you shouldn't tell us we piss you off, we are bieng nice by helping you.
8. get a new trainer
9. take sust longer
10. re do your whole cycle
11. get some clomid
sustanon 500mg weeks 1-10
deca 300 mg weeks 1-10
d-bol 30 mg weeks 1-4
winstrol 50 mg every day or every other dayweeks 9-13
clomid at end of cycle
you really need to respect the hand thats helping you...Madmax..
man shouldn't your trainer have told you about anti -estrogens...if this guy is so great then why the hell would he put you on a routine like this..are there a lot of body builders in arab nations..HOW OLD ARE YOU....Madmax...
OH,I see now, you people do things backwards over there...BTW your 20 and have been training for 1 year or less??
AM 20 AND I USED TO TRAIN SINCE 1 year And whats the anti-estrogen is it tabs or injection?
Well other than the fact that you are too young and haven't been training long enough the cycle is really bad. Try this.
1-11 500 mg sust
1-10 400 mg deca
1-4 40 mg dbol ed
Worry about winny on your next cycle. Make sure you have Nolvadex and clomid.
ok but can i know what is anti-estrogin??????????
I hope you find out "what is anti-estrogen" before you grow tits ,Maybe you should not hit the sauce yet..and wait till you've done your homework...Dont fuck yourself up now because you were in a hurry to get big, you have plenty of time for that later,
shit your only 20 years old. just my .02
LOL? i know nolvadx not anti estrogen
??? say again
thanks all i have just finished reading the drug profile and i knew what i really want.
totally agreed.. bulk on this one, and you can cut next cycle...Quote:
Originally posted by Rickson
Well other than the fact that you are too young and haven't been training long enough the cycle is really bad. Try this.
1-11 500 mg sust
1-10 400 mg deca
1-4 40 mg dbol ed
Worry about winny on your next cycle. Make sure you have Nolvadex and clomid.
thanks alot guys:)