started my cycle

[michi]

i started my cycle saturday with 250mg sustanon and am going to take winstrol on monday and deca 100mg on thursday .

my cycle is

1-6weeks sustanon 250mg
1-12weeks winstrol
1-12weeks deca starting with 100mg up to 200 down to 100
6-13weeks dbol starting with 20mg going up to 40mg going down to 20mg

when i will start seeing results??
what do u think about the cycle m8s ?

[footballcat]

Why are you taking the dbol at the end of the cycle?

[RON]

12 weeks of winny and straight into dbol is gonna kill your liver. Too much 17aa. Also doses are kinda low and tapering is a thing of the past.

[michi]

i am taking dbol at end because i dont want to take every thing in the same time and dont want to lose what i gained i dont know my trainer told me this cycle can any 1 help? and am taking bcomplex and multivitamins.

[michi]

and the dbols is with the winny not after il start dbol in 6th week.

[michi]

help me plz

[RON]

Start reading. There is a ton of info here. Do some searches. Read the edicational threads. You need clomid, anti-e, and ala. plus you first cycle should be a simple one: test and deca cycle or something like that. Also I just noticed you stop test at week 6 why is that

[michi]

man u guys piss me off every time say start reading i did read and u help with nth

[malidfa]

If we piss u off,why r u here asking for help?
If u had reaserched you would have known that running winny for 12 weeks & dbol for 7 weeks at the same time is going to kill ur liver & running the sust for 6 weeks will do nothing really(it doesnt kick in untill about week 4-5 say)

[nj_]

Originally posted by michi
i started my cycle saturday with 250mg sustanon and am going to take winstrol on monday and deca 100mg on thursday .

my cycle is

1-6weeks sustanon 250mg
1-12weeks winstrol
1-12weeks deca starting with 100mg up to 200 down to 100
6-13weeks dbol starting with 20mg going up to 40mg going down to 20mg

when i will start seeing results??
what do u think about the cycle m8s ?

What do I think about the cycle? I think its awful and needs to be completely revamped.

1. Sust for 6 weeks is a waste.
2. Running 250mg/wk sust is a waste. Replace it with enanthate or cypionate .
3. 12 weeks of winstrol = good bye liver. Run it at the end of the cycle to harden you up and prevent the gap while waiting for the deca/sust esters to clear your system before hopping on clomid therapy.
4. Deca should be run at a constant dosage of 300-400mg/wk (for a first cycle) to see optimum results as it is a long acting ester and takes a few weeks to build up in your system before becoming effective.
4. Dbol should be run at the start to kickstart the cycle, I don't know what your trainer is telling you but he sure has no idea what hes talking about.
5. Don't taper the dbol, run it at 30mg/day for the first 4 weeks.
6. Get some anti-e's on hand, you'll thank yourself if gyno symptoms appear and remember, nobody loves the bloated moon face look.

[michi]

nj thanks alot i am sorry guys i just called the trainer and he said the winstrol will be for 7 weeks and the dbol for 6 weeks and the dbol will be after the winstrol and i dont know what the trainer is doing but the thing that i trust him because he is a champoin in our country jordan he took 1st place and in the arab world he took the second place and he is good and can u tell me whats anti-e and what it do?

[Madmax]

i thought you told us on another post that they have profesionals to help you with that stuff over where your from...

1.you can't take the winstrol the the d-bol...( your liver will fail )
2.sustanonshould be ran for atleast 8 weeks preferably 10.
3.d-bol should be taken at the beggining of the cycle
4.winstrol should be taken at the end
5. you can't take d-bol for 7 weeks
6. deca should be ran at 300 - 400 mg
7. you shouldn't tell us we piss you off, we are bieng nice by helping you.
8. get a new trainer
9. take sust longer
10. re do your whole cycle
11. get some clomid

sustanon 500mg weeks 1-10
deca 300 mg weeks 1-10
d-bol 30 mg weeks 1-4
winstrol 50 mg every day or every other dayweeks 9-13
clomid at end of cycle

you really need to respect the hand thats helping you...Madmax..

[Madmax]

man shouldn't your trainer have told you about anti -estrogens...if this guy is so great then why the hell would he put you on a routine like this..are there a lot of body builders in arab nations..HOW OLD ARE YOU....Madmax...

[stinky]

OH,I see now, you people do things backwards over there...BTW your 20 and have been training for 1 year or less??

[michi]

AM 20 AND I USED TO TRAIN SINCE 1 year And whats the anti-estrogen is it tabs or injection?

[Rickson]

Well other than the fact that you are too young and haven't been training long enough the cycle is really bad. Try this.

1-11 500 mg sust
1-10 400 mg deca
1-4 40 mg dbol ed

Worry about winny on your next cycle. Make sure you have Nolvadex and clomid.

[michi]

ok but can i know what is anti-estrogin??????????

[stinky]

I hope you find out "what is anti-estrogen" before you grow tits ,Maybe you should not hit the sauce yet..and wait till you've done your homework...Dont fuck yourself up now because you were in a hurry to get big, you have plenty of time for that later,
shit your only 20 years old. just my .02

[michi]

LOL? i know nolvadx not anti estrogen

[stinky]

??? say again

[michi]

thanks all i have just finished reading the drug profile and i knew what i really want.

[kreper69]

Originally posted by Rickson
Well other than the fact that you are too young and haven't been training long enough the cycle is really bad. Try this.

1-11 500 mg sust
1-10 400 mg deca
1-4 40 mg dbol ed

Worry about winny on your next cycle. Make sure you have Nolvadex and clomid.

totally agreed.. bulk on this one, and you can cut next cycle...

[michi]

thanks alot guys