I mix my enan with deca and eq but it still hurts like a mofo, my close bro had thew same experience and just gave me all of his qv enan cause he couldnt handle it but I Looooove the gains I have gotten in 9 weeks and I have 6 more weeks so I guess the pain is worth it but I have never had any type of test hurt me like this one . I was just wondering if anyone else has felt the wrath of qv enan?