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    growingman is offline New Member
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    Clomid necessary?

    This is my first cycle:

    wk 1 - 6: 30mg D-bol ED
    wk 1 - 10: 500mg test enth(split into two shots a week)
    wk 11 - 12: 40mg novla ED
    wk 13 - 14: 20mg novla ED


    Should I take 100mg of clomin EOD during my cycle to prevent shrinkage and gyno? or should I just keep nolva on hand incase of early signs of gyno and just deal with the shrinkage? I really don't care about shrinkage I am just concerned with gyno. Also will the nolva post cycle be needed if I use clomid throughout the cycle? Would it just be better, at week 11, to continue the clomid at 100mg EOD for 2 weeks and then 50mg EOD for the next 2 weeks?

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    I'd run liquidex throughout to help take care of the gyno/bloating, and if you want to run clomid throughout the cycle to prevent shrinkage there is nothing wrong with it, I know many people that do it, but don't rely on clomid as your anti-e, its not powerful enough. 300mg Clomid day 1, 100mg/day days 2-11, 50mg/day days 12-21 is how I would suggest running your Clomid post cycle. Start it 2 weeks after your last shot of enanthate . 6 weeks of Dbol is getting lengthy for a first cycle, I'd cut it back to 4 or 5.

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    Arimidex is very expensive, as I am sure you know so I don't really want to to use it. Will clomid help keep the bloat down?
    Last edited by growingman; 12-28-2002 at 11:13 AM.

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    I wouldn't take the Nolva unless you see signs of gyno

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    I don't really want to take nolva during my cycle since it will inhibit estrogen conversion and therefore slow gains. I do want to limit the bloat from the d-bol thought. Would you suggest Proviron 50mg EOD to limit the bloat and not effect the lean muscle gains?

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    Use some liquidex...or femara

    PPL liquarim isnt too expensive...80$ for a 30 ml Bottle...1mg/ml.....
    Last edited by adaptations; 12-28-2002 at 04:24 PM.

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    The damn anti estrogen compounds are more expenssive then the AS. lol

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    Originally posted by TheRequiem
    The damn anti estrogen compounds are more expenssive then the AS. lol
    Yup but almost necessary..

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