My next bulking cycle, please critique

**CaliFella** · 01-13-2003, 07:34 AM

Here is what my second cycle looks like...Im going for strickly mass.

***updated***

Wk 1 - 1000mg test ethanate - 800mg deca (frontloading)
Wk 2 - 1000mg test ethanate - 800mg deca (frontloading)
Wk 3 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca
Wk 4 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca
Wk 5 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca
Wk 6 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca - 5000iu HGC
Wk 7 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca - 5000iu HGC
Wk 8 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca - 50mg Winny/ed
Wk 9 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca - 50mg Winny/ed
Wk 10 - 500mg test ethanate - 400mg deca - 50mg Winny/ed
Wk 11 - 100mg test prop/ed - 50mg Winny/ed
Wk 12 - 100mg test prop/ed - 50mg Winny/ed
Wk 13 - Clomid - 5000iu HGC
Wk 14 - Clomid - 5000iu HGC
Wk 15-17 Clomid

And of course proper nutrition, vitamins, anit e's, etc...

Im frontloading this cycle for a good kick start of long acting esters and ending it with short acting esters (test prop), to keep my levels at peak as long as possible and have a quick clomid recovery after . Any thoughts or suggestions?

**majorpecs** · 01-13-2003, 07:54 AM

Looks good to me...although I would think that if you wanted mass only you'd try maybe decca instead of EQ...but that's a personal opinion.

Get big bro!!

***JohnnyB*** · 01-13-2003, 08:51 AM

Hey Bro you mean hcg not HGH right?

JohnnyB

**CaliFella** · 01-13-2003, 04:23 PM

Ooops I fixed it to HGC..........I was wondering if I should use deca too. Im an ectomorph with small bones so I dont hold much fat at all so im looking for as much mass as possible.

**NoLimits** · 01-13-2003, 04:40 PM

What did your first cycle look like?
For what you want to accomplish, I would use Deca !

**Madmax** · 01-13-2003, 04:56 PM

looks good...go with the deca ..more water but more size...Madmax..

**nj_** · 01-13-2003, 05:01 PM

Looks good to me, but I wouldn't shoot 5000iu of HCG at once. I'd go with 500iu/day for 2 wks. Run it at 500iu/day in wks 11-12. I don't see the need for it in wk 6-7, if you switch to deca however then I would suggest shooting 500iu every saturday and sunday to prevent atrophy from being able to occur.

**CaliFella** · 01-13-2003, 05:05 PM

Ok im changing it to my original plan...deca ..hah!...My first cycle was 400mg deca and 500mg sustanon .

**CaliFella** · 01-13-2003, 05:08 PM

anyone have a preference on the kind of deca or does it really matter? I was using organon deca and organon sustanon my last cycle. I can get TTokyo Deca so much cheaper though.

**Madmax** · 01-13-2003, 05:48 PM

i used both on this cycle...i love organon...imo...nothing compares...Madmax..

**CaliFella** · 01-14-2003, 07:11 PM

Anyone have a fav brand of Test Ethanate?

**Warrior** · 01-14-2003, 07:20 PM

I am interested in how you came up with that frontload for the first two weeks versus one week. Did you do the math? I have for Propinate (double first day only based on the ester remaining high the sond day and plummeting on the third) - but not Decanoate or Enanthate , it would require a plot over a few weeks of the release vs days with Propinate. A little trickier to figure.

**Warrior** · 01-14-2003, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by AustinLee
Anyone have a fav brand of Test Ethanate?

Yugoslavian ICN Galenika seems to have good feedback - don't know first hand how clean it is, but have heard lots of good comments...

**The Butcher** · 01-14-2003, 09:02 PM

Re: Favorite Enanthate ?

I like Schering Primoteston Depot, but mainly because it seems to be dosed acurrately, and it doesn't make me hold as much water as others. Plus, it's usually a little over 1cc/amp.