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    BJJ wrote 6.13 feet. The 13 isn't inches, it's 6 feet plus an extra .13 of a foot. 187 cm equals 73.6 inches tall. So he is 6'2'' about

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    Just a note:

    Yesterday evening and today I ate like I was not used to since years, so very bad.

    I ate (yesterday at dinner) lots of pasta with gorgonzola and pecorino plus today at lunch I went to McD for eating about 2000 Kcal all in once, including more than 10 g of salt!!! Not to mention the breakfast with 100 g of Nutella.

    In the late afternoon I felt a little bloated, and I was wondering why...

    Anyway, I took my daily dose of Proviron (all in once) and in about 45' I felt like two days ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I see, but you did not answer my question. How should I write it?
    Write you height at 6'1, you can just forget about the 3

    As far as the sterile water goes, I'm not sure. Some guys I know had problems with the oil and somehow they started using some bacteriostatic water with eq and testosterone .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Just a note:

    Yesterday evening and today I ate like I was not used to since years, so very bad.

    I ate (yesterday at dinner) lots of pasta with gorgonzola and pecorino plus today at lunch I went to McD for eating about 2000 Kcal all in once, including more than 10 g of salt!!! Not to mention the breakfast with 100 g of Nutella.

    In the late afternoon I felt a little bloated, and I was wondering why...

    Anyway, I took my daily dose of Proviron (all in once) and in about 45' I felt like two days ago...
    Good ol fashion cheat meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    Write you height at 6'1, you can just forget about the 3

    As far as the sterile water goes, I'm not sure. Some guys I know had problems with the oil and somehow they started using some bacteriostatic water with eq and testosterone.
    So basically you are saying to dilute the EQ with bacteriostatic water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    So basically you are saying to dilute the EQ with bacteriostatic water?
    Yeah, you'll still get the same anabolic effect without the diarrhea. Thats what you hope for anyways. As far as the messurments go for the eq to bacteriostatic water, I don't know and there isn't an answer. I'd try half and half and see how that works.

    I think ar-r has some.

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    I also have a question about you cycle.

    Why would you run eq for only 8 weeks? Its recommended that you run it for at least 12 weeks. It slowly builds muscle over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    Yeah, you'll still get the same anabolic effect without the diarrhea. Thats what you hope for anyways. As far as the messurments go for the eq to bacteriostatic water, I don't know and there isn't an answer. I'd try half and half and see how that works.

    I think ar-r has some.

    I see, thanks for your suggestion but I decided to get rid of EQ.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    I also have a question about you cycle.

    Why would you run eq for only 8 weeks? Its recommended that you run it for at least 12 weeks. It slowly builds muscle over time.
    Simply because I did not want to run my short ester test more than 10 weeks, so 8 maximum for the EQ.
    In any case, I was interested about its endurance effect mostly.

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    Well I hope all goes well with the rest of your cycle. I've never done it before but I heard Test + anavar = a really good combination. Excited to see what results you get from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    Well I hope all goes well with the rest of your cycle. I've never done it before but I heard Test + anavar = a really good combination. Excited to see what results you get from that.
    Diarrhoea is over since two full days, finally!

    Thank you for your words.

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    On a side note, I would like to inform those interested, in the combination between test susp and mesterolone.
    When I raised the daily intake of Proviron up to 100 mg ed, my figure changed from the night to the morning.

    More clean, less water and more vascularized.
    Therefore, it seems, 80 mg ed test susp + 100 mg ed mesterolone to be a good stack.

    People seems to underestimate the sinergy of mesterolone.

    Next week, actually in about two days, Oxandrolone is going to be added ad 70 mg ed till the end of the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    On a side note, I would like to inform those interested, in the combination between test susp and mesterolone.
    When I raised the daily intake of Proviron up to 100 mg ed, my figure changed from the night to the morning.

    More clean, less water and more vascularized.
    Therefore, it seems, 80 mg ed test susp + 100 mg ed mesterolone to be a good stack.

    People seems to underestimate the sinergy of mesterolone.

    Next week, actually in about two days, Oxandrolone is going to be added ad 70 mg ed till the end of the cycle.
    Agreed. Proviron is alot like anavar and winny, and I've never used but I've heard some good things about it when stacked with testosterone . Careful however, people loose hair off of this stuff, and all that other DHT crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferocious bubble View Post
    Agreed. Proviron is alot like anavar and winny, and I've never used but I've heard some good things about it when stacked with testosterone . Careful however, people loose hair off of this stuff, and all that other DHT crap
    Yeah I know, but I am concerned about my prostate since the hairloss comes mostly from your mother's chromosome (X) and from that side I have no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    On a side note, I would like to inform those interested, in the combination between test susp and mesterolone.
    When I raised the daily intake of Proviron up to 100 mg ed, my figure changed from the night to the morning.

    More clean, less water and more vascularized.
    Therefore, it seems, 80 mg ed test susp + 100 mg ed mesterolone to be a good stack.
    That's why I never recommend using proviron under 100mg/ed while "ON" cycle. That's when I really start to notice it being there.

    125 - 150mg/ed is my sweet-spot.

    -VM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    That's why I never recommend using proviron under 100mg/ed while "ON" cycle. That's when I really start to notice it being there.

    125 - 150mg/ed is my sweet-spot.

    -VM
    Any increase of your PSA levels at that quantity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Diarrhoea is over since two full days, finally!

    Thank you for your words.
    Glad to read this

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Any increase of your PSA levels at that quantity?
    Need to know this as well, i am about to start test P & Tren A with 100mg proviron ED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Glad to read this

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    Forgot my thigh and femoral bicep, both 23g 1".
    BJJ, today i just did my 1st tight injection, it was not bad at all (i don't know how is it gonna feel tomorrow!) i have a question: after i injected the oil in my thighs (i did it very slowly) but after i finished, i wanted to wait for 30 seconds to remove the needle but it was push out of my thighs as if someone was pushing it out is this normal?!

    I was injecting 2.5cc using 25G/1" syringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    BJJ, today i just did my 1st tight injection, it was not bad at all (i don't know how is it gonna feel tomorrow!) i have a question: after i injected the oil in my thighs (i did it very slowly) but after i finished, i wanted to wait for 30 seconds to remove the needle but it was push out of my thighs as if someone was pushing it out is this normal?!

    I was injecting 2.5cc using 25G/1" syringe.
    First, Good Luck with your cycle.

    1. Wait tomorrow or even two days for the eventual pain to arrive. In my case, my left calf was ok just after the injection and even after 24h, but then it swollen like a caveman's calf and bothered me for three days. More or less, same thing happened with my left forearm and right bicep.

    2. I believe, you inadvertenly contracted you muscle and so what you felt was your muscle pushing out the needle. Take it easy next time, relax, feel the injection and take out the needle without waiting 30'.

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    Thanks BJJ, how is your progress so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    Thanks BJJ, how is your progress so far?
    Very good I must admit, especially because I lost some days at the beginning due to the intestinal problems.

    Tomorrow, I am going to check my stats and update my log.

    Good Night, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    First, Good Luck with your cycle.

    1. Wait tomorrow or even two days for the eventual pain to arrive. In my case, my left calf was ok just after the injection and even after 24h, but then it swollen like a caveman's calf and bothered me for three days. More or less, same thing happened with my left forearm and right bicep.

    2. I believe, you inadvertenly contracted you muscle and so what you felt was your muscle pushing out the needle. Take it easy next time, relax, feel the injection and take out the needle without waiting 30'.
    It's not even 12 hours since the injection and i started to feel it hurts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadeed View Post
    It's not even 12 hours since the injection and i started to feel it hurts
    Get used to.
    Try to inject muscles which you are not going to train for the following 48 hours.

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    Day 21

    36 Years Old, 6'1" Feet

    Body Weight: 93,8 kg (206 lbs)__________________95,7 kg (210 lbs) +2,02%
    Body Fat: 13%________________________________13%
    Body Water: 63,7%____________________________62,5% -1,88%
    Last edited by BJJ; 03-31-2010 at 04:30 AM.

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    36 Years Old, 6'1" Feet

    Body Weight: 93,8 kg (206 lbs)__________________95,7 kg (210 lbs) +2,02%
    Body Fat: 13%________________________________13%
    Body Water: 63,7%____________________________62,5% -1,88%
    Well done, keep up the good work...

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    Post 3rd Week

    Day 1
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.327
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light headache, Stomachache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Delt (22g 1¼")
    Blood Pressure: 119 SYS (mmHg), 60 DIA (mmHg), 68 BPM

    Day 2
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.374
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Diarrhoea, Light headache, Tummy ache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu), Loperamide (16 mg), Diazepam (10 mg)
    Injection Site: L Delt (22g 1¼")

    Day 3
    50 mg mes
    Kcal: 2.001
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Diarrhoea, Tummy ache, Flatulence, Light headache
    Additional Drugs: Diazepam (10 mg)
    Injection Site: None

    Day 4
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.296
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light headache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Trap (25g ⅝")

    Day 5
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.106
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Headache, Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Thigh (23g 1¼")

    Day 6
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.301
    Training: Shoulders
    Sides: Flatulence
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Thigh (23g 1¼")

    Day 7
    60 mg test prop / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.691
    Training: Chest
    Sides: Flatulence, Light bloating
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Glute (23g 1")

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.156

    1ST WEEK NOTES
    After a tough beginning where I experienced severe diarrhoea, my organism seems to have accepted the oil dissolved with the testosterone propionate , ethyl oleate (Testosterone Propionate Cycle Started but...).
    Regarding strength, I did not notice any important improvement so far.
    Starting from week 2 till week 8, I will inject 500 mg weekly of Boldenone Undecylenate (250x2), to experiment with the stamina effect and to avoid tendons injury since I am also practising Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

    Day 8
    70 mg test prop / 250 mg eq / 50 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.665
    Training: Cardio 30', Biceps & Triceps
    Sides: Light headache, Light bloating
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: R Trap (25g ⅝")
    Blood Pressure: 119 SYS (mmHg), 50 DIA (mmHg), 74 BPM

    Day 9
    70 mg test prop / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.705
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Light headache, Light bloating
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (75000 iu)
    Injection Site: L Tricep (25g ⅝")

    Day 10
    60 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.493
    Training: Cardio 30'
    Sides: Light bloating
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Tricep (25g ⅝") - L Delt (23g 1")

    Day 11
    70 mg test susp / 250 mg eq / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.591
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Nil
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Bicep (25g ⅝") - R Bicep (25g ⅝") - L Calf (23g 1¼")

    Day 12
    70 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 4.406
    Training: Back, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
    Sides: Anal burning
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: R Calf (23g 1¼") - R Glute (23g 1¼")

    Day 13
    70 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.300
    Training: Cardio 30'
    Sides: Anal burning
    Additional Drugs: Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: L Forearm (25g ⅝") - L Trap (25g ⅝")

    Day 14
    70 mg test susp / 250 mg eq / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.402
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Anal burning, Diarrhoea
    Additional Drugs: Loperamide (6 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu)
    Injection Site: R Pect (23g 1¼") - R Trap (23g 1") - L Pect (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.651

    2ND WEEK NOTES
    On day 8, I increased the daily intake of testosterone propionate up to 70 ed mg for a total of 490 mg weekly.
    On day 9, I increased the daily intake of mesterolone up to 75 mg ed for a total of 525 mg weekly.
    On day 10, I swapped the testosterone propionate for the suspension.
    On day 11, I increased the daily intake of testosterone suspension up to 70 mg ed for a total of 490 mg weekly.
    On day 12, strength finally showed up. I think it came a little late because of the diarrhoea problems I had to cope with, which still come and go.

    Day 15
    70 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.672
    Training: Shoulders
    Sides: Nil
    Additional Drugs: Ketoprofen Foam (1 g)
    Injection Site: L Delt (23g 1¼") - R Delt (23g 1¼")
    Blood Pressure: 123 SYS (mmHg), 52 DIA (mmHg), 68 BPM

    Day 16
    70 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.695
    Training: Biceps & Triceps, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
    Sides: Diarrhoea
    Additional Drugs: Fexofenadine Hydrochloride (180 mg)
    Injection Site: R Lat (23g 1") - L Lat (23g 1¼")

    Day 17
    80 mg test susp / 75 mg mes
    Kcal: 4.670
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Diarrhoea
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: R Bicep (25g ⅝") - L Bicep (25g ⅝")

    Day 18
    80 mg test susp / 100 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.648
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Nil
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Thigh (23g 1") - R Thigh (23g 1")

    Day 19
    80 mg test susp / 100 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.777
    Training: Chest, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
    Sides: Nil
    Additional Drugs: Ketoprofen Foam (2 g)
    Injection Site: L Fem Bicep (23g 1") - R Fem Bicep (23g 1")

    Day 20
    80 mg test susp / 100 mg mes
    Kcal: 3.966
    Training: Legs
    Sides: Nil
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Chest (23g 1¼") - R Chest (23g 1¼")

    Day 21
    80 mg test susp / 100 mg mes
    Kcal: 4.181
    Training: Rest
    Sides: Nil
    Additional Drugs: Nil
    Injection Site: L Glute (22g 1¼") - R Glute (22g 1¼")

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.944
    Total Injections So Far: 34

    3RD WEEK NOTES
    On day 17, I increased the daily quantity of testosterone suspension up to 80 mg, for a total of 560 mg weekly.
    On day 18, I got rid of Boldenone Undecylenate since the arachis oil was also causing the persistent diarrhoea I had since the beginning of this cycle.
    On the same day, I increased the daily intake of Mesterolone up to 100 mg, for a weekly total of 700 mg.
    Finally, it seems I can concentrate on my diet.
    Once I raised the Mesterolone up to 100 mg ed, I felt more lean and vascularized.
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    Today, I holed my tricep three times in order to make a proper injection since in the first two the fluid was not going inside the muscle.

    I think, there was a bubble of air to obstruct.

    Very funny...

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    Added Oxandrolone @ 70 mg ed.

    Also, added 4 g ed of taurine (breakfast/dinner).

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    great log...

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    Today, I added 25 mg of Mesterolone, for a total of 125 mg ed.

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    Today, I injected my left calf for the second time since the beginning of this cycle.
    I wish I never did it! I can barely limp...

    Fortunately, tomorrow is Sunday and on Monday is holiday.

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    So BJJ you would recomend mesterolone at 100mg a day to add to my npp and test prop cycle? I am staying away from winny because of my joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    So BJJ you would recomend mesterolone at 100mg a day to add to my npp and test prop cycle? I am staying away from winny because of my joints.
    Definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Definitely.
    Is it the only anti estrogen you use? If so is it preventing estrogen sides so far at that dose for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    Is it the only anti estrogen you use? If so is it preventing estrogen sides so far at that dose for you?
    Yes, I used nothing but Mesterolone so far.
    I started @ 75 mg ed now up to 125 mg ed and noticed that 100 is the base, at least for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Today, I injected my left calf for the second time since the beginning of this cycle.
    I wish I never did it! I can barely limp...

    Fortunately, tomorrow is Sunday and on Monday is holiday.
    I used ketoprofen foam before going to sleep yesterday night and this morning the problem was alomost solved.

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    I will probably have to use the last weeks of my cycle Budesonide (glucocorticoid steroid , cortisone) for the treatment of my allergy.

    Does anyone know if there is any interaction with aas?

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